Dave, I think there are two "White Queen" varieties in circulation. Mine is said to have been bred by Luther Burbank, as far as I can recall (this bulb came from Herb Kelly). I ought to re-check this with Herb. There is a lot of stuff, very interesting stuff, from the early 20th century still floating around California in private gardens around old homes. Burbank was not the only person doing some innovative hybridizing in California in those days. Most of the people who remember it, unfortunately, are dying off. Pity. Herb thinks there are some really fantastic old Burbank things to be found there, and he thinks he has found several already. Maybe Ben Zonneveld can check my 'White Queen' and the macowanii for me next season. All the C. bulbispermum I had Ben look at have seem to be 2n=22 (diploid). It is always possible that 'White Queen' can be parthenogenic too. I don't recall what the other (not macowanii) parent of 'White Queen' was. Jim At 06:38 PM 1/18/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Looks like White Queen is a polyploid, 2n = 44. > >The ref. for this polyploid 'White Queen' comes from KAVB and apparently it >was bred by W. H. Henderson in 1930. White, waxy, with yellowish stripe on >the reverse of the segments. > >Best Wishes, >Dave ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP