Jim McKenney asked,Evidently lily breeding at the Oregon Bulb Farms extended back to the early >'30's and was well on its way during the war years. So although I have yet >to track down a date for the "birth" of Lilium Enchantment, and 1938 does >seem a bit of a stretch, it's not out of the question. >Has anyone out there seen the actual birth certificate? Edward McRae, long associated with Oregon Bulb Farms as a grower and hybridizer, writes in "Lilies: A Guide for Growers and Collectors" (p. 211) that the Mid-Century Hybrids, including 'Enchantment', was a group "produced during the 1930s and early 1940s at Oregon Bulb Farms. ... An enormous number of crosses was made and huge quantities of seedlings raised. It is unfortunate that no accurate records survive from that period, and we can only guess at what crosses were made." (Eddie is Calvinistically severe about hybridizers who don't keep good records.) So it seems that no, there is no birth certificate. I well remember 'Enchantment' growing in large clumps in Fairbanks, Alaska, where winter temperatures descend to minus 60 degrees F (minus 51 C) almost every year. Its color is lovely in the mild sun of the far north, right next to the deep purple-blues of the giant hybrid delphiniums that also thrive in this climatically difficult but largely predator- and disease-free environment. An aside: Jim was surprised that Ken Hixson didn't know Hemerocallis fulva. Ken lives in the same area I do, and it occurs to me that we rarely see this plant in flower, although the fragrant yellow Hemerocallis lilioasphodelus (is that a wrong name now?) does well. I have read that many daylilies fail to flower in areas with cool summers, especially cool nights. They are not the basic garden plants here in northwestern North America that they are in the Midwest and East; however, we are well endowed (or infested, depending on your opinion) with their usual companions, hostas and tall bearded irises (where gardeners can constantly divide, spray, slug-bait, and keep all other vegetation at arm's length from the latter, which seem to me as fussy as hybrid tea roses). Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon