Tupila batalinii & linifolia
Jamie (Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:01:48 PST)

Mark,

I concur that they are very distinct. I grow both and the leaves are
different, the colours are different, the season is different and the
heights are different. Whether Bronze Charm is a hybrid, I couldn't guess,
but I wouldn't have thought so. Other than colour, it closely resembles the
other two T. batalinii clones in my garden, but then, who knows.

In Europe we have had a sudden rush of small species tulipa on the market,
some undoubtedly with spurious names, but most are quite distinct. I don't
know if they have hit the USA markets or not. Typically I see T.
urumiensis, T. tarda, T. turkestanica, T. saxitalis, T. sprengeri, T.
maximowiczii, T. winnowgradii, T. whittallii, T. marjolettii, T.linifolia,
T. clusiana (various cvs), T. batalinii (var. cvs) and T. acuminata. T.
humilis is available as various cultivars, such as Persian Pearl, Violacea
or Pulchella, but I am not sure if these are valid names! They are all
quite inexpensive, so I plant all that hit my fancy! All are lovely, but
not all adapt to our wet winter weather!

Ciao,

Jamie V.
Cologne

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separate species, taxonomically recognized as such, and are quite distinct
and easily recognized. Granted, Tulipa taxonomy is a mess, but perhaps no
more a mess than most other genera.

on Dwarf Tulipa, so I hesitate to open up a big discussion on this now and
dilute the topic too early on. But I will offer some bits of info:

Petrova E. Faberovai, Descriptor List - Genus Tulipa L., published in 2000.
The PDF accessed from the link below, while in Czech, has pages 18-20 in
English, with the latest enumeration of species and synonyms, a blurb on
taxonomy, and a short bibliography. Since I can't read the rest, I can only
conjecture that a portion of the species is listed here, not the entire
genus of ~150 species. In this paper, the two species in question are
listed as two separate species.

responsible for many of the old, now famous bulb selections, along with Van
Tubergen. The listing of species is fairly exhaustive, with brief history
on each, and it's a valuable resource in own right.

the cultivars of T. batalinii, namely 'Bronze Charm', reputedly derived from
a cross with T. linifolia and introduced by Van Tubergen. Many of the other
cultivars derived from "sports" in cultivation, or garden pollinated seed.
Thus batalinii has a reputation of not being "pure" these days, but some
specialty dealers sell the pure species and advertise it as so.

the flowers open out flat, the tepals are so wide that the form a stunning
rotate flower, yet with the ends of the fat tepals abruptly contracted to a
fine pointy tip... unmistakeable. It's also always startling because of the
shiny brilliant red flower color, with jet black center. Tulipa batalinii on
the other hand has yellow flowers (apparently somewhat variable shades of
yellow in the wild), with upright cup-shaped or open lily-flowered blooms.
They look VERY different.

rename unchanged, although I will add to my photos of batalinii 'Bronze
Charm' that there is probably some linifolia blood in that cultivar.