Dear all: Since there is an increasing attendance of people that are obviously newcomers to the world of bulb cultivation, let us add a few words on David. He is a doctor from Texas that has as a hobby the study of Crinums. Crinum as he briefly says in his comment is (rather was) in an impossible taxonomic confusion. Certain problems were impossible to solve for specialists like Les Hannibal or amateurs like Thad Howard for the simple reasons that the comings and goings of those Crinums in cultivation could only be guessed. David took the most radical approach: to travel to each of the original locations and collect the real thing. This sound sensible but implied going to remote places in Africa where only the original explorers had been ...once, and remain equally remote and unapproachable. David travelled to those original locations, collected these invaluable materials and solved many taxonomical problems. He did this in his usual serious silent way so his name is little known by most gardening people. I doubt there is a monumental work like his being performed by a single individual and this on his own private fundings! All the best Alberto _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en lĂnea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.latam.msn.com/