>>Diane: Are the days to germination (emergence) that you posted, the >>number elapsed from the beginning of the outdoor (5 to 10 C) >>period? excluding of course the 4 weeks of 18 C. Roy > >No. I counted the days to emergence from the time I sowed the >seeds. So, for example, A. philippiana germinated 10 days from the >time sown. Any of my seeds that germinated in 30 days or less >germinated in the warmth of my kitchen or living room and never had >a cool period except for the slight drop each night when I turned >the heat down. > That beats anything I saw 4 years ago when I tried germinating without chilling, on a mist bench at high temps (20 to 23 C). Got to do that again. I don't have many seed of species (just a few of aurea and ligtu that I collect annually) but I have oodles of hybrids sitting around.