Dear All, Since I have not received any impassioned posts against including Delphinium (or for that matter any against it at all) I will start a Delphinium wiki page and will use the very broad definition of geophyte as suggested by Jim Shields and Jim McKenney for determining which species I will include. Thanks for humoring me. It will mean I can add back some pictures I had deleted from the wiki already and others when they bloom this year. I grow about 12 taxa and there are a few hybrids that have appeared as well. I rather suspect when I start talking about them my enthusiasm will carry me along and this won't be brief. Jim M's comment about the resemblance to Aquilegia brings to mind how I got started growing these California delphiniums. As a child in southern California I loved the annual larkspur that reseeded and returned most years. And since I'm a sucker for blue flowers I had tried nursery grown Delphiniums (those large tall impressive ones), but never was very successful with them so had given up. But I'd say there was some early interest in this genus. When we moved to Mendocino County, now about 14 years ago, I offered to help out with the local native plant sale before I even knew the local native plants. I was given seed of a number of things to grow including Aquilegia formosa. I was pleased when it germinated nicely, but dismayed when it all died in the summer. I had transplanted some to 4 inch pots and never got around to disposing of all of them, just moving them out of the way. To my surprise after the plant sale sometime after it starting raining again I noticed activity in those pots so looked at the tags. Not only did they start growing again, but they bloomed and turned out to be Delphinium nudicaule which is beloved by my hummingbirds. For several years the plants did fine in a 4 inch pot going dormant in the summer and returning with the rains. I dumped them out to see what was in those pots and discovered the stick like root structure. After that initial success I started looking for seed in seed exchanges and acquired a few more. Now I scan seed lists including Ron Ratko's. I'd look up the plants to see where they came from assuming some of the mountain plants that would spend the winter under snow wouldn't like my wet winters. I find keying them out to be a huge challenge. Some have really distinctive leaves, but a lot of them are very similar. And the stem leaves and root leaves can be different so that adds to the confusion. Throw in that they can hybridize and I suspect you could have a mess. But for my purposes, that is admiring these little beauties, it doesn't matter so much. I have found the ones I grow to be really easy (if I give them a dry summer and protect them from snails and slugs and birds when they leaf out). Many of them have needed more space for their roots that you'd find in a four inch pot so most I have in gallons now (except for D. cardinale) which needs even more space. The first to bloom each year is Delphinium nudicaule. It is spiking now. I had one pot or another blooming last year between January and May. Last year Delphinium patens patens bloomed from February to May (and it is tuberous so no question about it being a geophyte.) Delphinium luteum bloomed last year March-May. It looks a lot like D. nudicaule and will hybridize with it to form a flower that is oddly colored rather than attractive. One year Harold Koopowitz offered some seed of D. parryi which turned out to be a very beautiful robust pretty blue when it flowered. Last year it bloomed April through June. I planted out one of the pots I had late in the season and was thrilled recently to see it is back. It is a part of my garden that doesn't get a lot of summer water. I grow two subspecies of Delphinium hesperium. One is purple and the other pink (March through June bloom last year if you count both of them.) Then I discovered a local population of this species growing on the bluffs last spring so saved seed of it which I donated to the BX this year and have had good germination of the seed I started. I have two species that are found at higher elevations and both of those I've been able to flower too and get to return, but they are late bloomers (Delphinium uliginosum and D. hansenii ssp. hansenii)Last year they bloomed in June. We had quite a discussion last year about the Delphinium cardinale John Ingram found in the wild in southern California. This one I grow too, but it has been slower to bloom from seed and needs a lot of room for its roots. I've grown red ones and yellow ones of that species. The one I had in the ground last year got eaten by snails more than once and didn't bloom at all. I thought it was gone, but it too has returned this year so I need to keep a watch on it so I won't repeat what happened last year. And I have a very nice plant that I'm not sure of that was listed as D. variegatum. This species is supposed to be the biggest one and doesn't seem to be much different size wise from my others so perhaps it could be something else. It was seed exchange seed so you never know. It is a late spring bloomer, bluish purple and white. Also I have seedlings of D. decorum, but they haven't bloomed yet. Maybe this year. From NARGS seed I have something that was labeled D. menziesii. There is still a picture of that plant on the wiki. I put it up to see if anyone could help me identify it. It is the most gorgeous blue color and almost doesn't go dormant. D. menziesii is supposed to be tuberous and since this one usually is in some stage of growth I've been loath to sacrifice it to check out its root structure, but without bare rooting it I don't think it is tuberous. I gave one to my good friend who loves to key plants and gave her a key Jane shared with me and she used the Jepson key, but she still wasn't sure what it was. Great plant for blue lovers however. I hope that by offering seed and my enthusiasm I'll get some of the rest of you to try growing these as well. I saw that Harold had succeeded with D. luteum when I visited a number of years ago and am happy that Cathy's D. hesperium is thriving too. I sometimes misspelled it on my plant tags and maybe I did that on the one I gave you Cathy. Mary Sue