I just want to let everyone know that there have been a few updates in the Clivia world. There is a description of a new species, C. robusta. I realized that I already had several of these in my collection already. WOW, am I lucky. It is like C. gardenii but nearly 4' tall. Now that is a big Clivia. Flowers are also twice the size. Then there is the recently described C. mirabilis. Kirstenbosch is releasing seedlings in the new year. This will be a step forward in the plant world. ===== John Ingram in L.A., CA. http://www.floralarchitecture.com/ check it out Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com 310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)