At 10:38 23/09/03 +1000, you wrote: >Hi again, > >Alberto wrote: >> Bulbs are never found to offset in the wild except in T. orthantha >> (ex Rigidella orthantha). > >By contrast in cultivation I have found the exact opposite occurs - >all increase by division except T orthantha. > Rob, Well if you ever come and visit here don't tell MINE that. Mine increased from 1 to about 4 the first year, and all returned last season but didn't flower (it had flowered the previous year so I assumed it wanted a rest <Grin>). As to other species increasing.... all have done so except T. vanhouttei I think. Definitely the hybrids multiply quite well and I have definitely had offsets on T. dugesii and T. durangense and I think that multiflora and chiapensis are looking ready to split after this growing season (they have already divided in 2, but still have a fully linked basal plate so I can't really say they have fully divided as yet. T. vanhouttei is still the original bulb I bought. Obviously they like multiplying for us over here in Aus eh Rob? I can't say I mind at all <grin>. I too would like to hear about seed sources for the other species that Alberto mentioned. Great intro Alberto!! Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Oxalis, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!