Dear Jamie and all, I know that some of you have had trouble with the wiki. For some of you it has been very easy and for others it has been a struggle. I don't want to be defensive about this but I have labored over the FAQs adding new pieces each time something comes up and I wonder if anyone is reading them. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ is our home page. That is where everything starts. That is where you access the photograph page that has all the genera on it. That is where you find the upload file. That is where you find the disease pages, the mystery bulbs, the contributors page, the FAQ, the section that tells you how to use the wiki, how to add pages, how to edit. On the page where you upload the file I have written the following: Instructions for naming your file, how to upload it, how to find the name of your file if you have not made a note of it when it is uploaded, and what to do with it after you have uploaded it. What else do I need to add to help you all figure it out. I am open to suggestions. In the FAQ there is this question: What do I do after I have uploaded the file? In most cases we hope you will add the URL for your picture to one of the Wiki Pages. There are pages for Mystery Bulbs, Diseases, and for many bulb genera. If your image is for a species or a hybrid that does not have a genus page already created for it consider making a new page for that genus on the Photographs and Information page (see below to learn how.) If you just have one image of a plant from a genus that is not yet listed on the Photographs page you may just add information and your URL to the Photographs page. Go to the Wiki page you want (named genus, Mystery, Photographs). Select edit at the bottom of the page. Add information alphabetically by the name of the plant. Please credit the person who took the picture and briefly tell what it is, country of origin, whether photographed in the wild or garden, and other brief information that might assist someone who is interested in growing it. Below this information on a separate line add the URL for the image of the plant preceded by three % symbols. Do not use brackets around the URL file when you add it to our page so it will become a wiki link on our page. After you have previewed your work to make sure you are satisfied with how it looks, save it. For editing tips see below. If you want the people on the PBS list to know that you have posted a picture please send an email to the list telling them about your picture. Include the URL for the wiki page if you have more than one picture to share instead of the URL for the file. For example: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… There are a lot more questions and answers like this. Does this information also need to be on the Photographs page since people obviously are not reading the FAQs? I think we hoped the photographs page would stand alone and not be a how to page so the how to pages were put on the wiki home page. In addition I am always willing to help people learn the system and everyone I've helped has learned it. Since the wiki is interactive any one of you can "improve" the instructions. That is fine with me. If you want to add to the FAQs just send me your ideas and I will update them. The Wiki instructions we started with were terrible. I have tried really hard to make them clear and so am feeling very discouraged. Perhaps as I keep adding more information to help everyone it makes it look too complicated so people panic and I need to take away some of the instructions. On the photographs page I recently added information about how to use the search feature which I learned from trying it out. On the top of every wiki page (except for the files page) there is a find page box. When you click on it you can type a word in the full text search and find a reference to any word that is written on any page. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… And http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/ is the preface for every single wiki page. Just add the name of the page on the end. So if you know the genus and there is a page for it, all you have to do is add the name of that genus. You can actually go to the url that is displayed and just change the last word and hit enter. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… will get you the Lilium page. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… will get you the Contributors page. I could add this information to the FAQs but would that help? I check the uploads every day, sometimes twice a day as does Mark and I don't think many of them are falling through the cracks. Some people have uploaded files that know how to put them on pages, but just haven't had time to do it. Write me privately all of you who have struggled or are struggling and tell me how to improve it. By the way I went to the files page as directed on the upload page and sorted by date and found the two beautiful pictures of Lilium pardalinum that Jaime uploaded. One was named Lilium_pardalinum .JPG and the other was named Lilium_pardalinum_profile.JPG so using the system of adding the names of his files to the location of the files his urls became: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… Since this one has a space in it the space is replaced with %20 http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… Mary Sue