mary Sue and Jane, I did not know that you like delphinium. I have always been fascinated by them and love the ones I have in Ohio (Magic fountians and PAcific) but have never tried them here other than spring annuals. I would love to try more of them and would be very interested in some seeds. Since my growing area is at the beach, I do not know how the CA ones would do for me but I would like to try. ===== John Ingram in mostly gloomy but warm, L.A., CA. Not much blooming right now, just a few Crinums, a sinningia or two, and some fabulous Pelergoniums. jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/floralartistry2000/