Dear All, Andrew Harvie has given permission to put his picture on the wiki so I have added it: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… Or see the whole page: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Martin has slides of others he saw in the wild and may in the future have a chance to scan them and add them to the Wiki. Does anyone in this group besides Peter grow these? My friend Jana started some from Silverhill seed a number of years ago and shared one of her seedling pots and I have one survivor of Nivenia corymbosa. I finally decided it looked like something that should be in the ground, not a pot, so I planted it out last year. I had no clue about size so placed it in a place where it could get sun and where we water weekly in summer. It is still there, but not vigorous at all and if it lives up to Martin's prediction in his wonderful introduction to this topic it is in the wrong place! (Nine feet tall and a foot and a half across, oops!) At the way it is growing however it is going to take a very long time to get to that size. Mary Sue