Jim - as a post script, C luteolum is very rarely grown in Australia as it is very difficult to source seeds because of its remote habitat and the erratic nature of its flowering.. I was fortunate to be able to combine a 10 day, several thousand km road trip last year with a side trip to one of their habitats and was directed to a location where in 2010, after heavy late summer rains, it was flowering in profusion. I was pushing my luck because summer rains in the area in 2021 had been few and far between and I found only a handful of harshly sun beaten plants and a few shriveling seeds by the time I visited the area a couple of months after summer.. Bruce Schroder, Melbourne, Australia _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>