Carl I would agree with the need for a pumice substrate for the Othonnas. I have O. perfoliata for three years . The tuber escaped into the plunge bed through the holes in the bottom of the pot. The plunge bed is a mix of sand and pea gravel. The leaves are twice the size of the ones grown in the pots. Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Carl Frederick via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Cc: Carl Frederick <carlfrederick@comcast.net> Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2022 11:05 am Subject: [pbs] Othonna cakilefolia hybrids Made my subject more relevant… Thanks for the feedback! And yes, Ernie, the hybrids are mostly fertile in my experience. So I’ve been able to cross and recross them giving rise to a lot of color variation. Some are very robust whereas others are fragile as can be so I have had a lot of losses. I’m getting to the point that I think pure pumice is safest to grow them. The inspiration to grow them came from Steven Hammer years ago when he supplied me with seeds saying I should get a lot of different colors. I sowed them that fall and got nothing. It was only later that I heard from another bulb enthusiast that some winter bulbs germinated much better if sown in spring, dry, and allowed to bake dry all summer before commencing watering in the fall. That turned out to be exactly what these seeds needed. And like other plants sometimes germination could be delayed but the summer baking usually produced abundant results. I’ll send more photos soon. > On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Growing and hybridizing Othonna cakilefolia and related species has been a long-time project of mine. Crossing yellow and purple/pink species has resulted in many differently-colored flowers. Here are a couple blooming this year. If you would like to see more let me know. > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1188553 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image1.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1067773 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > > > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 20:23:31 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> >> To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" >> <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> Subject: [pbs] Othonna cakilifolia >> Message-ID: <330675968.499236.1641068612148@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> ?Flowering today. >> A gift from a fellow PBS'er >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Othonna cakilifolia.2022.4.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 820815 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> >> ------------------------------ >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:34:19 -0600 > From: Rimmer de Vries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Othonna cakilefolia hybrids > Message-ID: <2A8A8C2A-B62F-4A7D-A67C-E7BAEFDA71B8@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ?These are very nice Carl! > > Rimmer de Vries > Bowling Green, KY > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:59:52 -0500 > From: Kenneth Preteroti <k.preteroti@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Carl Frederick <carlfrederick@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 59, Issue 2 > Message-ID: <D5E616DA-54CF-44C7-ACC4-E66379988814@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Nice project and interesting results Carl! > > Ken P > New Jersey, USA > Zone 7 (6b) > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 21:25:16 +0000 (UTC) > From: pelarg@aol.com > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 59, Issue 2 > Message-ID: <185988258.876036.1641158716361@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Carl, > Those hybrid othonnas are really pretty.? Are the hybrids themselves fertile? > Ernie DeMarie? _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Othonna perfoliata.2021.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 803581 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>