Given the time of flowering and the colour I don’t think this is G. cardinalis. My guess would be one of the nanus hybrids, maybe ‘Guernsey Glory’. Best wishes Frank Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Nov 2021, at 12:00, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Massonia - flower within flower (Paul Cumbleton) > 2. Gladiolus identification (Ashley Mooney) > 3. Re: Gladiolus identification (Diane) > 4. Re: Gladiolus identification (Cody H) > 5. Re: Ana Rosa (ana rosa Llovet Difilippi) > 6. Massonia culture (Kenneth Preteroti) > 7. Re: Gladiolus identification (Diane) > 8. Re: Gladiolus identification (Mary Sue Ittner) > 9. Re: Gladiolus identification (Diane Whitehead) > 10. Re: Gladiolus identification (Laura Grant) > 11. Re: Gladiolus identification (Ashley Mooney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 16:30:19 +0000 > From: Paul Cumbleton <cumbleton@yahoo.co.uk> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia - flower within flower > Message-ID: <9b9d2daa-5dd8-edc8-c3d5-9754dc43ac29@yahoo.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > My post on this subject lost all its text so here it is again, hopefully > working this time: > > Most Massonias can make offsets, especially if planted out to give a > free root run, though even in a pot some will too. This happens > regularly for me with several species. The offsets are produced basally > as in the accompanying picture of a Massonia bakeriana bulb with > offsets. The same species is illustrated in growth with multiple offsets > in the second picture. I don't like it when they do this as it spoils > the appealing simple symmetry of a single bulb. Don't know what has > happened with your 'flower within flower' Rimmer, just one of those odd > things that plants sometimes do. I often have Massonias make a third > leaf as yours has, but not with an extra flower too. > > Paul Cumbleton > UK. Zone 8 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:51:02 +1300 > From: Ashley Mooney <ashleymooneynz@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: > <CAJZqeMJgo5R7TxnbP6Ao1NsnND21kKaVo=k+8+rYh_yKT9KFkQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, > > Please forgive me if this is a slightly low-brow request for PBS. > > I was given the small Gladiolus in the attached picture and it is flowering > now for the first time in our garden, at the top of the south island of New > Zealand. Would anyone be so kind as to identify it for me. > > Thank you so much, Ashley > __________________________ > Ashley Mooney > t:- 021 0416930 > e:- ashleymooneynz@gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: P1170306.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 5749072 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 15:18:35 -0800 > From: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: <68BEFC87-5E46-4C3B-B9B8-DEC211E9F11D@islandnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The flowers look like pictures I have seen of Gladiolus cardinalis. It grows from wet cliffs and flowers in midwinter. I have never seen an actual plant. > > > Diane Whitehead > Victoria B.C., Canada > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 16:19:59 -0800 > From: Cody H <plantboy@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: > <CAAgPc_49fiJA8=Gm-gNkKveiJdmf88VLkC+em8XT9m3=DL8WKw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It does look similar to G. cardinalis, but if it is that species it is a > form I have not seen before. The form I have grows during the winter but > flowers in spring for me in the Seattle area. The flowers are red with > white markings. I?ve never seen a salmon colored form. > > I don?t know what kind of variability there is in wild populations, but I > suspect the plant in the photo here might be a hybrid of some kind. > >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:18 PM Diane via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> The flowers look like pictures I have seen of Gladiolus cardinalis. It >> grows from wet cliffs and flowers in midwinter. I have never seen an >> actual plant. >> >> >> Diane Whitehead >> Victoria B.C., Canada >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:43:59 -0300 > From: ana rosa Llovet Difilippi <anallovet3@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Ana Rosa > Message-ID: > <CAGLj0w43Eq9KKV=cKpCtx1Wyz+LR7QgU-nqPU9ocLBJuY0G_ug@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Gracias. Mi Ingl?s alcanza para leer y entender pero lo practico poco. Es > una maravilla estar tan cerca de toda esta gente con sus cultivos. A t? un > abrazo grande por responder. > > El jue., 11 de noviembre de 2021 1:41 p. m., Victor Hugo Men?ndez Dom?nguez > via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> escribi?: > >> Un saludo desde M?xico, es un gusto leer a iberoamericanos! >> >> Greetings from Mexico, it?s a pleasure read iberoamericans!! >> >> Saludos !! >> >> V?ctor Hugo >> M?rida , Yucat?n, M?xico >> >> El El jue, 11 de noviembre de 2021 a la(s) 8:21, Carlos Jim?nez via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> escribi?: >> >>> Hola, Ana Rosa, bienvenida. >>> >>> Hi, Ana Rosa, welcome >>> >>> Carlos Jim?nez >>> Valencia, Spain >>> >>> El dj., 11 de nov. 2021, 13:00, < >> pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> va escriure: >>> >>>> Send pbs mailing list submissions to >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. (no subject) (ana rosa Llovet Difilippi) >>>> 2. Re: Massonia viverensis? (Kenneth Preteroti) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:25:22 -0300 >>>> From: ana rosa Llovet Difilippi <anallovet3@gmail.com> >>>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> Subject: [pbs] (no subject) >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAGLj0w6aREbe0vTL+wD00syGLaMWFkiqjc8yEvc= >>>> 0O91Ba8y6A@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Agradecimiento total a las personas q participan de este foro. Me he >>>> enriquecido con tanta pasi?n por los bulbos. Algunos totalmente >>>> desconocidos para m?. Desde Uruguay --- Am?rica del Sur---- Un abrazo. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:29:59 -0500 >>>> From: Kenneth Preteroti <k.preteroti@verizon.net> >>>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia viverensis? >>>> Message-ID: <9709C0D2-7316-4E46-B43D-7B86F27460D5@verizon.net> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Oops. Sorry for the confusion. Need to double check before sending. >>>> >>>> Massonia sempervirens >>>> >>>> Ken P >>>> >>>> ?If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people >> what >>>> they do not want to hear.? George Orwell >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:05 PM, Roy Herold via pbs < >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Looking closely at Ken's photo I see the name starts with 'semp'. I >>>> think he means Massonia sempervirens. >>>>> >>>>> --R >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/9/2021 6:56 PM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: >>>>>> I have something from Roy Herald collected in Modderfontein that >> looks >>>> similar, blooming now in a 2? small pot >>>>>> >>>>>> Rimmer >>>>>> In Kentucky >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Subject: Digest Footer >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> End of pbs Digest, Vol 57, Issue 10 >>>> *********************************** >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> >> -- >> Saludos >> >> V?ctor Hugo >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 19:47:36 -0500 > From: Kenneth Preteroti <k.preteroti@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Massonia culture > Message-ID: <3FE971CD-3CB7-45D4-A0C2-A4B91EB3E541@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ? > ? > I have been enjoying the recent discussion on the genus Massonia. I have a number species and wondered if I could grow them better and reduce losses. When looking at the PBS site and other growers sites I found a lack of specific cultural information. Such as the potting mix, fertilizer type, frequency and when to use. Pot type could be a function of where you live and environmental conditions ie humidity . Also could the growing culture be the same for Massonia?s cousins in the Hyacinthaceae family Daubenya, Polyxena and Lachenalia? > > My mix is my cacti/succulent mix. 50% grit (pumice, turface, granite Diatomite) and 50% ProMix (HPCC with mycorrhizae peat/coir based). I am using mostly plastic pots. I fertilize monthly using a 20:10:20 peat-lite with minors formula slightly diluted. Once my winter growing plants break dormancy I place them outside and bring them in the greenhouse before a hard frost. All winter growers not just Massonia. They get a good 6 weeks of outdoor life with cool nights and warm days in full sun. They get fertilized at least once and watered a couple times. Our late summer and early fall there is plenty of rain. > > My losses aren?t immediately noticeable. They appear to go dormant healthy but I sometimes find a sinkhole in my pot in the summer as the bulb rotted. Did I overwater and especially near their summer dormancy? Is the mix not gritty enough? Should I move away from 50/50 and go to 75/25 or 90/10? Am I over fertilizing? Maybe just once or twice in the beginning of the growing season. > > > > > Ken P > New Jersey, USA > Zone 7 (6b) > > ?If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.? George Orwell > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 17:07:08 -0800 > From: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: <A8AA943D-BCBC-4749-A93F-C7C66E505B14@islandnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > This is the description of the flower of Gladiolus cardinalis in A Revision of the South African Species of Gladiolus by G. J. Lewis and A.A. Obermeyer > > Flowers large, scarlet or crimson, the 3 lower lobes with a largish white or cream somewhat rhomboid or diamond-shaped mark with a pinkish mauve border merging into deeper red, sometimes 1 or both of the upper lateral lobes with a similar or modified marking. > > Diane Whitehead > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 18:17:33 -0800 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: <29d680b1-03cb-91da-d78e-f238759200e6@mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I think it looks like one I grow that is one of the Gladiolus hybrids > that in the trade is referred to as Gladiolus nanus because of their > short stature. This is not a botanical accepted name. Telos sells a > hybrid form of Gladiolus cardinalis. I don't expect the real thing would > be easy to grow since it grows next to waterfalls. > > Here's a photo of mine. > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Many of the hybrids sold as Gladiolus? nanus are very beautiful like the > one in your photo. > > Mary Sue > >> I was given the small Gladiolus in the attached picture and it is flowering >> now for the first time in our garden, at the top of the south island of New >> Zealand. Would anyone be so kind as to identify it for me. >> >> >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 18:26:46 -0800 > From: Diane Whitehead <ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: <8A4BDCEA-163C-439B-A4F0-65596CA53EB7@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I made a mistake on the flowering time of G cardinalis. It blooms in mid-summer. > > Diane > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 00:03:10 -0500 > From: Laura Grant <lauragrant1947@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: > <CAKw2XHuvd8-5rDfxiPAraXdb78XAm-fyXULJi07maJTc_h=Z+w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I have a very similar Glad that was sold to me as Amanda Mahy. > Laura > Niagara on the Lake > Ontario > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 9:17 PM Mary Sue Ittner via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> I think it looks like one I grow that is one of the Gladiolus hybrids >> that in the trade is referred to as Gladiolus nanus because of their >> short stature. This is not a botanical accepted name. Telos sells a >> hybrid form of Gladiolus cardinalis. I don't expect the real thing would >> be easy to grow since it grows next to waterfalls. >> >> Here's a photo of mine. >> >> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… >> >> Many of the hybrids sold as Gladiolus nanus are very beautiful like the >> one in your photo. >> >> Mary Sue >> >>> I was given the small Gladiolus in the attached picture and it is >> flowering >>> now for the first time in our garden, at the top of the south island of >> New >>> Zealand. Would anyone be so kind as to identify it for me. >>> >>> >>> URL: < >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 21:32:16 +1300 > From: Ashley Mooney <ashleymooneynz@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Gladiolus identification > Message-ID: > <CAJZqeMLFXwyq3WqLanHOW1Xtb=SPUkKT2YGziLTMRnMT0JVX7g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Dear All, > > Very helpful. Thank you. I am confident that it is a hybrid Nanus. I have > two slightly different forms of a G. cardinalius hybrid where the basic > petal colour is red rather than salmon pink. Also, I believe cardinalis > hybrids have a silver flush to the back of the petals, which both mine > have. Amanda Mahy looks very good and I am happy to go with that ID. > > Very many thanks, Ashley > __________________________ > Ashley Mooney > t:- 021 0416930 > e:- ashleymooneynz@gmail.com > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 6:03 PM Laura Grant via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> I have a very similar Glad that was sold to me as Amanda Mahy. >> Laura >> Niagara on the Lake >> Ontario >> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 9:17 PM Mary Sue Ittner via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >>> I think it looks like one I grow that is one of the Gladiolus hybrids >>> that in the trade is referred to as Gladiolus nanus because of their >>> short stature. This is not a botanical accepted name. Telos sells a >>> hybrid form of Gladiolus cardinalis. I don't expect the real thing would >>> be easy to grow since it grows next to waterfalls. >>> >>> Here's a photo of mine. >>> >>> >> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… >>> >>> Many of the hybrids sold as Gladiolus nanus are very beautiful like the >>> one in your photo. >>> >>> Mary Sue >>> >>>> I was given the small Gladiolus in the attached picture and it is >>> flowering >>>> now for the first time in our garden, at the top of the south island of >>> New >>>> Zealand. Would anyone be so kind as to identify it for me. >>>> >>>> >>>> URL: < >>> >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 57, Issue 19 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>