Hi Jane, I have seen N. radinganorum growing in a park in SE Spain. It is a sturdy little thing at a location recommended by John Blanchard. In his book, Michael Salmon refers to radingnorum as N. hispanicus ssp. radinganorum. N. albimarginatus is very, very rare. Guard it with your life! Your description matches the picture. It is from a remote location in Moroco. If you would like, I can try to scan in the pages facing the pictures which include descriptions and maps. The book is so large, I don't know if I can do it. Best, Kathy ksa2006@verizon.net 610-933=1855 P.S. Just saw your email. I think you will enjoy this book. The price of 44.99 pounds is printed on the back of my book. -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Jane McGary via pbs Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 8:22 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Cc: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> Subject: [pbs] Narcissus redinganorum Just now I picked a flowering stem from a cheerful patch of daffodils and brought it in to see what I could do about verifying the name on it. I grew it many years ago from seed obtained from Michael Salmon's Monocot Nursery. However, the only documentation I can find online is old lists from that nursery, and John Blanchard's book on Narcissus species mentions the name in passing as having been applied to a certain population by Fernandez Casas, who named quite a few species not accepted by the botanists of Kew. Blanchard's brief summary of Fernandez's description doesn't sound anything like what I have here. My plants, including 4 or 5 original seedling clones and their substantial increase, represent a member of the N. pseudonarcissus group. The corona is cylindrical with a ruffled flange at the margin, and exceeds the corolla segments slightly. The corona ("cup") also darkens toward the margin in ombre fashion, which is pleasing. The corolla segments ("petals") are somewhat twisted and turned under at t he margins, definitely not a structure approved by daffodil breeders! The scape (stem) is almost square in cross section. Is anyone else growing such a narcissus from this source? Is there any name I can append to it other than N. pseudonarcissus? Whatever it is, it's one of the very first trumpet narcissi to flower here, and delightfully vigorous. In the bulb house the N. cantabricus and N. romieuxii are finishing up, still far too many despite the hundreds of bulbs I sent to the BX last summer. Flowering for the first time here is another mysterious name, N. albimarginatus. I grew it from seed supplied by Kurt Vickery, who took over much of Mike Salmon's stock. The general habit, foliage, and poise of the flowers reminds me of N. triandrus, but this one is bright yellow except for a white zone at the outer margin of the corona, obviously the source of the name. It is very pretty, but you have to turn up the flowers to see the white rim, since like those of triandrus they are pendent. Another early one is Narcissus obvallaris, not regarded as a separate species by some botanists but I see that Blanchard accepts it. A modest plant but capable of putting on a show once established, it grows in my bulb lawn, and it's not going to be very showy this year because a truckload of Douglas fir branches and twigs fell on it during the recent ice storm, along with a great many chunks of ice that fell from the trees during the thaw. I managed to clear off the bulb lawn and the crocuses are doing well, but a lot of the narcissus stems were broken. Just waiting for the chipper truck to show up, though fortunately I snagged a chainsaw guy who was working for the neighbor; told him to cut the boughs into lengths that could be moved by someone half as strong as he was, and he must be very strong. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>