I spoke with a friend of mine who is a non-practicing attorney currently a self employed editor/ indexer of literary works from all types of clients. I let him review the email chain. He looked at our web presence and felt it very clearly is for the benefit of education and hobbyist. In short there is a history of sharing information in a not for profit manner? His real question is what would one gain by legal action? No one wins and it’s likely never to happen. If litigation did result, there is little to obtain from PBS, hard to prove harm to the author, or affiliated organization. He doubted a lawyer even as Pro Bono would take on the effort. Hope thus helps to understand the risks? Mike Hope that helps, On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:25 AM Kipp McMichael via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Greetings, > > Given that no one is attempting to sell anything, the publishing > organization is defunct, most authors have likely left this world and, in > any case, none of them would have been opposed to dissemination of their > work to current and future generations of horticulturalists: I think we are > in safe territory. > > Otherwise, we are choosing handwringing about truly insubstantial > copyright concerns over creating an archive of some very useful > horticultural information. I would go so far as to assert that The Society > has a positive obligation to preserve/archive this content that more than > justifies the minor, hypothetical transgression. > > The Society should make these pdfs available on the website. The worst > that could happen is a cease-and-desist letter (that will never come > because no one will pay a lawyer to write one). If that zero-likelihood > event were to occur, we could remove the pdfs from the website. > > Let us be bold and make this contribution to horticultural posterity. > ________________________________ > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of Arnold > Trachtenberg via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 5:04 AM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Herbertia and Plant Life publications > > I think the International Bulb Society is no longer a viable organization > and as they were the copyright holder there is no longer a copyright > Arnold New Jersey > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Saturday, March 13, 2021, 3:15 AM, Tim Harvey via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Does this constitute fair use? > > T > > > On Mar 12, 2021, at 11:37 PM, phyllis rock via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Thank you. What a lovely gift to so many appreciative plant lovers! > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Friday, March 12, 2021, 9:59 PM, Michael Homick via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > My fellow bulb enthusiasts: > > I have started the process as time permits of scanning > > and transferring Herbertia and Plant Life issues into pdf's. I hope to > make > > an additional year available every week. I have started with the1953 > > edition. Go to the link below and click on the image to download the PDF > > file. Please note that these files are large and will take time to > > download. I suggest you save the files on your hard drive or a memory > stick > > to access in the future. Future issues to follow weekly. 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