Sylvia, I've emailed questions to the USDA permits 'help desk' about my permit at the following email, and they returned an email answer that same day... put your permit number in the email with your question about renewal problems. I can't remember where on the USDA permit website I found the help email address, but here it is: plantsforplantingpermits@usda.gov Ken Isaac First post from a new PBS member (hope I don't break anything!) Sylvia Sykora via pbs (*Sun, 29 Aug 2021 12:02:52 PDT*) Has anyone else found themselves trapped in the online vortex of the APHIS site in an attempt to renew a Small Lots of Seed.... _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>