tomatoes

Jane Sargent via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Tue, 29 Sep 2020 06:24:38 PDT
At my house in southern Mexico, we were doing some remodeling on the 
house next door, and a workman chucked the remains of his 
tomato-containing lunch in a corner of the little yard. A tomato forest 
appeared and was eventually taken down with a machete.

Jane S

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> Kathleen
> We have steady slug damage on flowers and leaves by slugs?
> They?re not bothered by the toxic colchicine present in the plant?
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> New to my garden, several Colchicum bulbs came last week, I planted them out.
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> If you have any seeds to be donated for the fall exchange - please do so
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> Vlad asked if it was surprising to me that tomatoes were grown in Berlin.?
> Yes, Vlad, it is. My understanding of sumer weather conditions in Berlin? suggest that temperatures in the? 22-24 C range (70s F) are usual. Here, where I live (just north of Washington, D.C.) we routinely experience over 30 days per? year with temperatures over 90 degree F. We have, in effect, a month-long season of extremely hot tempertures which you do not get in Germany. Furthermore. during those hot periods, it does not cool off at night very? much.?We take tomatoes for granted here: they grow like weeds and self-sow. But I've read about efforts to grow tomatoes in Britain, where at least in the past they were grown under glass. Since Berlin is only about 60-70 miles farther north than London, I wondered if growing conditions were similar there.Somewhere in an old book I read about a British grower who was unable to flower Lycoris squamigera as a garden plant, but did? have success growing it under glass.?Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone7, 39 N, -77 E, w
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>   re Lycoris radiata var,. radiata is still blooming.
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>   One ploy known to Europeans is to grow tomatoes right up against a south-facing brick wall to better retain heat.? An immigrant friend recently built a new house (Knoxville, TN) and erected a brick wall in the yard for the sole purpose of planting his tomatoes next to it.
> Bob? Zone 7
>      On Monday, September 28, 2020, 11:35:45 AM EDT, Jim McKenney via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
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> Vlad asked if it was surprising to me that tomatoes were grown in Berlin.?
> Yes, Vlad, it is. My understanding of sumer weather conditions in Berlin? suggest that temperatures in the? 22-24 C range (70s F) are usual. Here, where I live (just north of Washington, D.C.) we routinely experience over 30 days per? year with temperatures over 90 degree F. We have, in effect, a month-long season of extremely hot tempertures which you do not get in Germany. Furthermore. during those hot periods, it does not cool off at night very? much.?We take tomatoes for granted here: they grow like weeds and self-sow. But I've read about efforts to grow tomatoes in Britain, where at least in the past they were grown under glass. Since Berlin is only about 60-70 miles farther north than London, I wondered if growing conditions were similar there.Somewhere in an old book I read about a British grower who was unable to flower Lycoris squamigera as a garden plant, but did? have success growing it under glass.?Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone7, 39 N, -77 E, w
 he
>   re Lycoris radiata var,. radiata is still blooming.
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> Probably as big a problem is that most varieties will not ripen unless the
> night-time temperature is below about 70F.  I ran into that problem one
> year when all of August was above 80F and I had huge quantities of huge
> green tomatoes accumulate and then ripen simultaneously after we got a few
> cool nights.  I got about ten bushels in one picking.  Nowadays I just use
> the farmers markets where I can buy a 1/2 bushel basket for $10 - $12 and
> 13 ears of corn for $3.
> Tim in Amish country.
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> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:35 AM Jim McKenney via pbs <
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>> Vlad asked if it was surprising to me that tomatoes were grown in Berlin.
>> Yes, Vlad, it is. My understanding of sumer weather conditions in Berlin
>> suggest that temperatures in the  22-24 C range (70s F) are usual. Here,
>> where I live (just north of Washington, D.C.) we routinely experience over
>> 30 days per  year with temperatures over 90 degree F. We have, in effect, a
>> month-long season of extremely hot tempertures which you do not get in
>> Germany. Furthermore. during those hot periods, it does not cool off at
>> night very  much. We take tomatoes for granted here: they grow like weeds
>> and self-sow. But I've read about efforts to grow tomatoes in Britain,
>> where at least in the past they were grown under glass. Since Berlin is
>> only about 60-70 miles farther north than London, I wondered if growing
>> conditions were similar there.Somewhere in an old book I read about a
>> British grower who was unable to flower Lycoris squamigera as a garden
>> plant, but did  have success growing it under glass. Jim McKenneyMontgomery
>> County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone7, 39 N, -77 E, where Lycoris radiata var,.
>> radiata is still blooming.
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>   Tim's right. Local growers here have caught on to the problems with early plantngs (fungal diseases), midseason plantings (nights too hot ) and so more are trying plantings timed to fruit and ripen later when the nights at least cool off.Jim McKenney?
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> Hello Jim,
>
> Yes, I could always cultivate tomatoes here in Berlin. With very few
> exceptions, like in 2017, when it did not warm up that much. In rest, they
> all get ripe, but usually by end of August.
>
> Some do come back the following year like weeds, these are ripe even later,
> by mid September. I do not grow them towards a brick wall or such, just in
> the garden away from the most intense afternoon sun or on the terrase in
> pots (the little ones).
>
> It is indeed surprising that up North here this is possible, but it is. In
> the last few years we always got days with over 30 degrees C and at least
> 4-5 weeks with 25 degrees or above (usually from end of July to beggining
> of September). On the other end, winters are pretty mild, we rarely get
> below -12 C.
>
> If I would consider my home country?s climate, at this latitude we would
> have cool summers and really harsh winters, so you can imagine my surprise
> when I moved here. I have grown plants and animals my whole childhood, back
> in Moldova.
>
> Even my in-laws grow tomatoes and they are even more up North, on the
> island of R?gen. There summers are less warm than in Berlin, but their
> tomatoes do get ripe.
>
> Breton area in France is completely different. First, they get much more
> rain. Then, they rarely get over 22 degrees in summer or below 0 C in
> winter (we have friends that live there). Berlin area is drier, warmer but
> also colder in winter.
>
> Cheers,
> Vlad
>
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> Cheers,
> Vlad
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> On Mon 28. Sep 2020 at 17:35 Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net>
> wrote:
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>> Vlad asked if it was surprising to me that tomatoes were grown in Berlin.
>>
>> Yes, Vlad, it is. My understanding of sumer weather conditions in Berlin
>> suggest that temperatures in the  22-24 C range (70s F) are usual. Here,
>> where I live (just north of Washington, D.C.) we routinely experience over
>> 30 days per  year with temperatures over 90 degree F. We have, in effect, a
>> month-long season of extremely hot tempertures which you do not get in
>> Germany. Furthermore. during those hot periods, it does not cool off at
>> night very  much.
>> We take tomatoes for granted here: they grow like weeds and self-sow. But
>> I've read about efforts to grow tomatoes in Britain, where at least in the
>> past they were grown under glass. Since Berlin is only about 60-70 miles
>> farther north than London, I wondered if growing conditions were similar
>> there.
>> Somewhere in an old book I read about a British grower who was unable to
>> flower Lycoris squamigera as a garden plant, but did  have success growing
>> it under glass.
>> Jim McKenney
>> Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone7, 39 N, -77 E, where Lycoris
>> radiata var,. radiata is still blooming.
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> From: ds429 <ds429@frontier.com>
> To: pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: [pbs] Sternbergia update.
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> From: ds429 <ds429@frontier.com>
> To: pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: [pbs] Sternbergia update
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> Sorry about that slip of the finger.
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> Silly me ! What I mistook for Sternbergia a month ago turned out to be a yellow rain lily, and it's still blooming and setting seed. Today, very close to where the rainlily is are blooming real Sternbergias. I suspect they will not set seed.
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> Dell in North Central West Virginia
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> My Sternbergia are flowering, too, and are looking unusually good, perhaps because of all the rain we had this year.
>
> Also flowering in my garden today:  the latest clone of Lycoris radiata var radiata, the red form of Rhodophiala bifida, Crinum macowanii (for the umpteenth time this year), Hedychium coronarium, Hedychium ?Applecourt?, and Seemannia nematanthodes.
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> At the non-bulb end of things, the beginning of autumn has given us a bumper crop of shiitake mushrooms in the log garden.
>
> Nick
> North Carolina
> https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/
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>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 1:51 PM, ds429 via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
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>> ?Sorry about that slip of the finger.
>>
>> Silly me ! What I mistook for Sternbergia a month ago turned out to be a yellow rain lily, and it's still blooming and setting seed. Today, very close to where the rainlily is are blooming real Sternbergias. I suspect they will not set seed.
>>
>> Dell in North Central West Virginia
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