When I had a small diversified rare plant nursery in Virginia (foothills of the Blueridge Mountains), deer were a big problem. I used a roll-up portable electric fence like people use for rotational grazing. Deer went right over. Then I tagged it every 15 feet with strips of metal foil with peanut butter smeared on one side, to encourage deer and raccoons to get better acquainted with the fence. That seemed to work. I also had a border collie, whose last job before bed was to run around the perimeter and bark at any deer lurking in the shadows. Erik Listen to 'Designers of Paradise' <http://rasa.ag/designers/> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> *"It's far too late for pessimism" - Dee Hock* *“Another world is not only possible, she is already on her way. On quiet days I can hear her breathing.” * - Arundhati Roy * "Although my view is as vast as space, when it comes to the nature of actions and their consequences, I am extremely precise, like little particles of flour." * -Padmasambhava *"You don't need to do everything. Do what calls your heart; effective action comes from love. It is unstoppable, and it is enough."⠀*~ Joanna Macy On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 15:39, Judy Glattstein via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > In my previous garden, in Connecticut, I did have an electric fence in > combination with a tall, decorative wooden fence, my house, and a tool > shed. We had a one acre property. It was possible to configure the > fencing, both electric and wooden, so that access to the garage was not > impeded. > > The electric fence was actually a pair of high tensile wire fences set > about 2 feet apart, with the two wires on the inner fence, three on the > outer fence. They were arranged so none lined up. This worked because > deer do not like to jump into a space they cannot easily jump out of. > Can pair up a fence and a hedge = same difference. Deer also, > apparently, have rather poor depth perception so the five wires at > different levels were confusing. The system used a Gallagher charger, > developed in New Zealand to use with sheep. Deer have hollow hair, so a > typical stock fence charger used for horses and cattle is not as effective. > > Our New Jersey property is nearly nine acres. It slopes rather steeply - > in winter the asphalt paved driveway can be impassible. There is also a > seasonal brook running through it. Fencing is not an option. > > For small(er) properties that do not want to or cannot fence for some > reason - staple two foot wide chicken wire to small wooden battens. Lay > down around area to be protected. Deer do not like to step into it - > perhaps it feels like their legs can become trapped. > > Judy in New Jersey where yesterday's morning watering of all outdoor > pots was certainly effective. Late yesterday evening a thunderstorm > rolled through, leaving just over an inch of rain. > > On 6/24/2020 8:51 AM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Having read so many times that there is a lot of damage caused by > browsing deer, I cannot remember anybody suggested electric fencing. Is > there a reason? Is it forbidden? > > > > Electric fencing is not obtrusive and relatively cheap to install. It > can be fitted with a timer to avoid accidental contact during the day time. > > > > It needs to be properly installed to be effective. Here in Europe it is > the only means to protect against wild boar. The lowest wire has to be 10cm > above ground which is snout level of the boar. They learn quickly and will > touch the wire only once...... > > > > Shouldn't the same work with deer? At a different position of the wires? > > > > Bye for now > > > > Uli > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus/ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…