https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/… On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 4:34 PM mark akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the great brainstorming on the evolution of geophytes, > soil types, presence or absence of toxic compounds, grazing pressure, > digging and burrowing animals, environmental changes, etc. etc. all of > these will make a great presentation topic and a way to introduce > evolutionary adaptations to students in a STEM curriculum. > > Mark > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 1:21 PM GEORGE STEWART <george_stewart@bigpond.com> > wrote: > > > An old but useful book is Tuberous Cormous Bulbs > > > > by John Pate and Kingsley Dixon; > > > > publisher:///UWA/ Publishing, 1982 > > > > It covers Western Australian species but most of the information can be > > generalised to species from other parts of the world. > > > > George Stewart > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > Sent: Friday, 8 Feb, 2019 At 8:42 AM > > Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 24, Issue 6 > > > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Evolution of geophytes? (mark akimoff) > > 2. Re: Evolution of geophytes? (Giant Coreopsis) > > 3. Re: Evolution of geophytes? (mark akimoff) > > 4. Re: Evolution of geophytes? (Jane McGary) > > 5. Re: Evolution of geophytes? (Tom Elias) > > 6. Re: Evolution of geophytes? (Jim McKenney) > > 7. Asarum canadense sun tolerance (Dennis Kramb) > > 8. Small World (Judy Glattstein) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:28:45 -0800 > > From: mark akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAGOPR+cG++RiV_bW4YFzpTuGkht2s_GXM2ihOJx6C032GXp+oA@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm wanting to put together an introductory power point on the evolution > > of > > geophytes to be used in STEM (Science Technology Engineering and Math) > > outreach at local schools. I'm interested in the story telling aspect of > > it, and Martyn Rix' "Growing Bulbs" has a great introductory chapter on > > the > > evolution of flowers that covers things like the Crocus, and > > subterranean > > ovaries as an adaptation to grazing pressure. Or for instance, fall > > blooming speciation as an adaptation to seasonal migration of grazing > > herds across elevational gradients. > > > > Beyond that book does anyone have any other books, articles, ideas, > > theories, etc? That might be useful in introducing evolution of > > geophytes > > as a curriculum? I'm leaning towards tying it in to current issues like > > zeric adaptations for changing climate or pollution tolerance, that sort > > of > > thing. > > > > Any help from this brain trust would be much appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > Mark Akimoff > > illahe > > Salem, Oregon > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:26:04 -0800 > > From: Giant Coreopsis <giantcoreopsis@gmail.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > Message-ID: <D84A07E6-2956-4EC0-87B5-EEABB3015F64@gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > I have a slim-ish volume called ?The evolution of plants? by Willis and > > McElwain. I can send you snapshots of the table of contents / index in a > > private message if you?re interested. > > > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:28 AM, mark akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm wanting to put together an introductory power point on the evolution > > of > > geophytes to be used in STEM (Science Technology Engineering and Math) > > outreach at local schools. I'm interested in the story telling aspect of > > it, and Martyn Rix' "Growing Bulbs" has a great introductory chapter on > > the > > evolution of flowers that covers things like the Crocus, and > > subterranean > > ovaries as an adaptation to grazing pressure. Or for instance, fall > > blooming speciation as an adaptation to seasonal migration of grazing > > herds across elevational gradients. > > > > Beyond that book does anyone have any other books, articles, ideas, > > theories, etc? That might be useful in introducing evolution of > > geophytes > > as a curriculum? I'm leaning towards tying it in to current issues like > > zeric adaptations for changing climate or pollution tolerance, that sort > > of > > thing. > > > > Any help from this brain trust would be much appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > Mark Akimoff > > illahe > > Salem, Oregon > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:30:25 -0800 > > From: mark akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAGOPR+dSJDuRuxQNLnPHez_bboVqnqd-MUtB3+d-dOMgMOEyhg@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Thanks, > > > > That would be great! I'm gathering all resources! > > > > Mark > > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM Giant Coreopsis > > <giantcoreopsis@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I have a slim-ish volume called ?The evolution of plants? by Willis > > > and > > > McElwain. I can send you snapshots of the table of contents / index in > > > a > > > private message if you?re interested. > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:28 AM, mark akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm wanting to put together an introductory power point on the > > > evolution of > > > geophytes to be used in STEM (Science Technology Engineering and Math) > > > outreach at local schools. I'm interested in the story telling aspect > > > of > > > it, and Martyn Rix' "Growing Bulbs" has a great introductory chapter > > > on the > > > evolution of flowers that covers things like the Crocus, and > > > subterranean > > > ovaries as an adaptation to grazing pressure. Or for instance, fall > > > blooming speciation as an adaptation to seasonal migration of grazing > > > herds across elevational gradients. > > > > > > Beyond that book does anyone have any other books, articles, ideas, > > > theories, etc? That might be useful in introducing evolution of > > > geophytes > > > as a curriculum? I'm leaning towards tying it in to current issues > > > like > > > zeric adaptations for changing climate or pollution tolerance, that > > > sort of > > > thing. > > > > > > Any help from this brain trust would be much appreciated! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mark Akimoff > > > illahe > > > Salem, Oregon > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 11:09:55 -0800 > > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > Message-ID: <ba1fe838-b17a-fa43-0cf6-a8bc2b50fe97@earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > The ways in which bulbs multiply often seem to be adaptations to > > environmental conditions. For instance, the production of numerous tiny, > > loosely attached offsets (such as "rice grains" in some Fritillaria) is > > often associated with predation by digging animals such as bears and > > humans (e.g., consumers of Fritillaria camtschatcensis, Brodiaea > > californica, Camassia). The interesting bulb of Lilium pardalinum, which > > is elongated with very numerous scales, may reflect its typical habitat > > near mountain streams, where the bulb might be dislodged and distributed > > in spring. In both cases, the forms that bore many viable bulblets or > > scales would tend over time to dominate the population. > > > > Mark mentions Crocus and its subterranean ovary. You can tell when > > crocuses are ready to have their seed harvested because the capsule > > rather suddenly rises above soil level on a stem, so that the seeds will > > scatter. In nature one usually sees crocuses growing as scattered > > individuals, not the tight clonal clusters found in cultivation -- > > perhaps a respnse to burrowing predators. > > > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USAOn 2/7/2019 10:30 AM, mark akimoff > > wrote: > > > > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:28 AM, mark akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I'm wanting to put together an introductory power point on the > > >> evolution of > > >> geophytes to be used in STEM (Science Technology Engineering and > > >> Math) > > >> outreach at local schools. I'm interested in the story telling aspect > > >> of > > >> it, and Martyn Rix' "Growing Bulbs" has a great introductory chapter > > >> on the > > >> evolution of flowers that covers things like the Crocus, and > > >> subterranean > > >> ovaries as an adaptation to grazing pressure. Or for instance, fall > > >> blooming speciation as an adaptation to seasonal migration of > > >> grazing > > >> herds across elevational gradients. > > >> > > >> Beyond that book does anyone have any other books, articles, ideas, > > >> theories, etc? That might be useful in introducing evolution of > > >> geophytes > > >> as a curriculum? I'm leaning towards tying it in to current issues > > >> like > > >> zeric adaptations for changing climate or pollution tolerance, that > > >> sort of > > >> thing. > > >> > > >> Any help from this brain trust would be much appreciated! > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Mark Akimoff > > >> illahe > > >> Salem, Oregon > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> pbs mailing list > > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> pbs mailing list > > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:16:55 +0000 > > From: Tom Elias <tselias@msn.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > Message-ID: > > > > < > > > BYAPR07MB6135B0157CD64F2D906133DAB0680@BYAPR07MB6135.namprd07.prod.outlook.com > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Mark: > > You may also want to investigate the presence of toxic secondary > > compounds such as alkaloids in geophytes. I know for example that > > Irises are abundant in the extensive steppes of Siberia. This is a > > major location for the evolution of large herbivores. Tulips are also > > found here along with other bulbous plants. I know that Irises are > > loaded with alkaloids and poisonous to gracing animals. But, I do not > > know about the toxicity of Tulips and other bulbous plants found there. > > This is one of several mechanisms that plants have developed to > > successfully compete and survive. > > > > Tom > > > > ________________________________ > > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of mark > > akimoff <makimoff76@gmail.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:28 AM > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > Subject: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm wanting to put together an introductory power point on the evolution > > of > > geophytes to be used in STEM (Science Technology Engineering and Math) > > outreach at local schools. I'm interested in the story telling aspect of > > it, and Martyn Rix' "Growing Bulbs" has a great introductory chapter on > > the > > evolution of flowers that covers things like the Crocus, and > > subterranean > > ovaries as an adaptation to grazing pressure. Or for instance, fall > > blooming speciation as an adaptation to seasonal migration of grazing > > herds across elevational gradients. > > > > Beyond that book does anyone have any other books, articles, ideas, > > theories, etc? That might be useful in introducing evolution of > > geophytes > > as a curriculum? I'm leaning towards tying it in to current issues like > > zeric adaptations for changing climate or pollution tolerance, that sort > > of > > thing. > > > > Any help from this brain trust would be much appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > Mark Akimoff > > illahe > > Salem, Oregon > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:29:35 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Evolution of geophytes? > > Message-ID: <183874394.4843201.1549571375389@mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Note that the ovaries of most (or all?) colchicums and crocuses are > > underground at bloom time and in colchicums the ovary is raised up above > > the surface within the foliage as it develops. In most crocuses, the > > seed capsule is pushed up out of the ground when the seeds are > > ripe.?Among crocuses, Crocus korolkowii produces seed capsules which > > remain underground.?Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA > > zone 7, where the first of the late winter crocuses might appear any day > > now.? > > http://bulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/… > > > > > > | > > | > > | | > > pbs Info Page > > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 15:49:02 -0500 > > From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: [pbs] Asarum canadense sun tolerance > > Message-ID: > > <mailman.27.1549572547.519.pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Near my property line I have cultivated a lovely and large patch of > > Asarum canadense in the shade of my neighbors pine trees.? The first > > plants originally appeared all on their own about twenty years ago.? > > New neighbors have seen fit to chop all those trees down last week (at > > the peak of the polar vortex no less). So now the plants are in full > > sun. > > Is a shade screen necessary for them to survive? > > Dennis in Cincinnati > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:42:16 -0500 > > From: Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> > > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > Subject: [pbs] Small World > > Message-ID: <9590ddc9-8940-a53f-b289-62346413a9c6@gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > > The small world and making connections. > > > > I looked up walipini. The entry mentioned that the term refers to an > > earth-sheltered cold frame. It derives its name from the Aymaran > > languages. > > > > My brother did his doctoral research in the Peruvian Andes lo these many > > years ago. He learned both Quechua and Aymara languages. So of course I > > asked him about this. > > > > His reply: > > "Wali- is an Aymara root that means 'good.' Waliskiw means, things are > > good. Not sure about the -pini suffix. The cab driver that my brother > > and his wife had back from JFK was a Bolivian, grew up with > > Quechua-speaking parents, still knows it. He said he'd never had a > > Quechua-speaking customer before in his 35 years of driving. " > > > > Where were they coming back from? He had been at a conference in Durban. > > His wife came along. After the conference they took a long week in Cape > > Town, went to Kirstenbosh, up Table Mountain, etc. Most of the pictures > > he sent to me (taken with his iPhone) are not of interest to me and you. > > Here are three that make the cut. I'm pretty sure about the scadoxus. > > And is watsonia correct? > > > > Judy in NJ where the living history farm is scheduled to start tapping > > sugar maples this Saturday. 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