Hi Faith, Albert mentioned to me on October 30th that he had not yet shipped out BX 450 but was hoping to have it in the mail that week. To answer your more general question, how to know if we won the lottery and will receive our request, we do not know until the padded brown envelope arrives. I responded to four BX's this summer or fall and received nearly all the items I requested. I do not know if that is typical or if I just ask for species others do not desire. I see this process as similar to growing bulbs. We plant them, we wait, and then if they come up we know they are viable. In comparison, the BX is fast. I watch my mailbox as eagerly as I watch pots for leaves to poke up through the pumice. Gastil _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…