Very good point, Jim M., and likely true. The majority of the British Isles is, concerning cold hardiness, like our zone 8. This is barely cold enough for the spring foliage species to bloom reliably here in the U.S. It's, however, ideal concerning cold hardiness for most fall foliage species. But, I believe as you say, the summers are just too temperate to get reliable bloom from these. Add to all this the fact that Lycoris take at least three years to mature enough to bloom in the first place, with Nerine offering more color choices and Amaryllis offering a good trumpet form as an alternative to L. squamigera. All that said, Lycoris FOREVER! -- Mr. Kelly M. Irvin 10850 Hodge Ln Gravette, AR 72736 USA USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b On 2/23/17 12:24 PM, Jim McKenney wrote: > My take is that they fail in California because the summers are so dry. I suspect that they fail in Europe because the summers are so cool. > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/