Iranian seed: During the time covered by this Iranian seed trading and legal process, there were a number of U.S. companies selling recent Iranian carpets here in the Boston area. They did this with impunity. I can´t imagine Iran getting rich from lily seeds and wonder about what appears to be selective enforcement. Jane On 23/10/2016 12:54 a. m., pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > (Peter Taggart) > 2. Re: Paramongaia from NZ (Ina Crossley) > 3. Re: Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > (Peter Taggart) > 4. Re: Paramongaia from NZ (Anders Bo Petersen) > 5. Re: Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... (BO MAGRYS) > 6. Re: Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... (BO MAGRYS) > 7. Re: Paramongaia from NZ (Bruce Schroder) > 8. Re: Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > (Christian Dietz) > 9. Re: Amaryllis AND. Lycoris (Barbara) > 10. Re: is it possible to send selling offer in this group ? > (Fierycloud) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:48:42 +0100 > From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > Message-ID: > <CAELwaKjbPy-i0qYbQV6xHZTprqazNAiFjGAqABX-EzVDGkRT=A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > For Summer deciduous 'bulbs' it is light levels in Winter, when they are in > leaf and photosynthesising, that is important. Day and night length as well > as temperature may be important for flowering, and more hours of light will > mean more hours of photosynthesising. > Peter (UK) > > On 19 October 2016 at 18:55, Sarah Hinckley <sarahh@suiattle.net> wrote: > >> Hi Robin, >> >> I am a beginner with SA bulbs. None of the ones I have have begun to >> flower yet. I have had the greenhouse less than a year. I am just >> presupposing that the light levels in western Washington might be too low >> to get these bulbs to grow and flower successfully. >> >> I really appreciate hearing about others experience! >> >> thanks, >> >> Sarah >> >> >> On 10/19/2016 10:50 AM, Hansen Nursery wrote: >> >>> .... >> >> , although surely more lengthly exposure to light in the summer should >>> compensate for less intensity of light to some degree the further north >>> you >>> live. Can someone comment on this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Robin >>> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:51:57 +1300 > From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Paramongaia from NZ > Message-ID: <2146533d-1ed5-acdc-4dd8-b6b22d81210f@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Is this the winter growing one or the summer growing one Anders? As > Bill Dijk has unmatched clones of these of the winter ones I know for > sure, so probably also for the summer ones. However, unrelated clones > are only one step in getting seeds. For the winter ones the temperature > should stay above 15? C at all times. Which is why in Spain they have > no problem at all in getting seed. > > Our last winter I did get seed setting on my Paramongia weberbauerii. I > did the tricks of microwaving and also of unrelated pollen. At that > stage had not known about the temperature problem, so in the end the > seed pods aborted. > > So far don't know about how my summer ones will go. > > Ina > > On 20/10/2016 2:00 a.m., Anders Bo Petersen wrote: >> I have just received some bulbs of Paramongaia on eBay from New Zealand.The retailer was Don Barclay. Just wonder if anybody knows if his clones are the same as Bill Dijk?The reason for asking is that I know you need two different ones if you want to succeed pollinating them.Regards Anders B. PetersenCopenhagen, Denmark >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:56:28 +0100 > From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > Message-ID: > <CAELwaKjmdp-dNPFRTkjOA-tg4KLk_LCu4kZhxb=7-iKQYqhxFQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Sorry, my last reply; > For Summer deciduous 'bulbs' it is light levels in Winter, when they are in > leaf and photosynthesising, that is important. Day and night length, as > well as temperature may be important for flowering, and more hours of light > will mean more hours of photosynthesising. > Peter (UK) > > was to this: > > "If they aren't flowering at all or poorly, I'd definitely supplement the > light, although surely more lengthly exposure to light in the summer should > compensate for less intensity of light to some degree the further north you > live. Can someone comment on this? > > Thanks, > > Robin" > > > , although surely more lengthly exposure to light in the summer should >>>> compensate for less intensity of light to some degree the further north >>>> you >>>> live. Can someone comment on this? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Robin >>>> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:06:56 +0000 (UTC) > From: Anders Bo Petersen <anbope1970@yahoo.dk> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Paramongaia from NZ > Message-ID: <628167867.7511426.1476911216300@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Ina, sorry I meant (of course) the summer growing clone which will be winter here......I bought a bulb from Bill Dijk a couple of years ago. It flowered the first year. I received some som pollen from another grower but didn't succeed.?I expect with the new bulb from Don Barclay, that it?will flower as it had a huge size.? > I did know about the temperature though.?Anders? > > > Den 21:52 onsdag den 19. oktober 2016 skrev Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com>: > > > Is this the winter growing one or the summer growing one Anders?? As > Bill Dijk has unmatched clones of these of the winter ones I know for > sure, so probably also for the summer ones.? However, unrelated clones > are only one step in getting seeds.? For the winter ones the temperature > should stay above 15? C at all times.? Which is why in Spain they have > no problem at all in getting seed. > > Our last winter I did get seed setting on my Paramongia weberbauerii.? I > did the tricks of microwaving and also of unrelated pollen.? At that > stage had not known about the temperature problem, so in the end the > seed pods aborted. > > So far don't know about how my summer ones will go. > > Ina > > On 20/10/2016 2:00 a.m., Anders Bo Petersen wrote: >> I have just received some bulbs of Paramongaia on eBay from New Zealand.The retailer was Don Barclay. Just wonder if anybody knows if his clones are the same as Bill Dijk?The reason for asking is that I know you need two different ones if you want to succeed pollinating them.Regards Anders B. PetersenCopenhagen, Denmark >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: BO MAGRYS <bonaventure@optonline.net> > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > Message-ID: <67aff91b.5b90.157deca335d.Webtop.41@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no > > Go on Amazon search LED grow lights. I find them great for orchids and > now the price is very low. > > > Bonaventure in New Jersey > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:17:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: BO MAGRYS <bonaventure@optonline.net> > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > Message-ID: <7cecbeb2.5ba1.157deceb095.Webtop.41@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no > > Check out: > ?https://amazon.com/gp/product/… > > > Bo > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:09:20 +1100 > From: Bruce Schroder <bruceandjill.schroder@gmail.com> > To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Paramongaia from NZ > Message-ID: > <CAMJpn62uxhUkCM04+ovD4e2iHSq=4xrubERodhx0gd49yQynqQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The obvious question Anders but have you asked Bill? I know both Bill and > Ebay's Pigeon Man (is this Don Barclay?) are the summer growing forms which > seems to be the form grown in NZ whereas the form grown (rarely) in > Australia is the winter growing form and there appears to be a couple of > clones of this in the country. > > Bruce Schroder - Melbourne > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:35:18 +0200 > From: "Christian Dietz" <utricularia@gmx.de> > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Light levels for growing SA bulbs - Simplified... > Message-ID: > <trinity-acbfd2bf-4ef3-413d-a89e-470a263e8a22-1476970518416@3capp-gmx-bs12> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 01:27:43 -0700 > From: "Barbara" <barbara@adamsranch.net> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis AND. Lycoris > Message-ID: <021e01d22c3e$2a2ef280$7e8cd780$@adamsranch.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I grow both the amaryllis belladonna and lycoris not sure of the name got both from my mil years ago. The lycoris is blooming right now and it has the bright red flower and no leaves. I > Am in the sierra foothills about 900 ft or less my mil grew them both in Sutter Creek ca in the sierra foothills. I still have some straggling amaryllis growing. I also grow hippeastrums . I am also in the lower sierra foothills. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of James Waddick > Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:10 AM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis AND. Lycoris > > Del Where is ?here? ? Jim > > > On Sep 5, 2016, at 8:08 AM, Del Allegood <npublici@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I grow Hippeastrum and Lycoris.Amaryllis will grow here,but never blooms for me.It wilts and dies back in the heat,even in spring. > > On Monday, September 5, 2016 8:59 AM, James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > wrote: > > > Dear PBS era, > > After our posts about the differences between the two genera, I am > curious if there is any location where a person could actually grow BOTH > Lycoris and Amarylllis in te same garden location outdoors in the ground. > > Does such a place exist? > > Thanks Jim W. > > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 04:47:41 +0000 (UTC) > From: Fierycloud <fierycloud2002@yahoo.com.tw> > To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] is it possible to send selling offer in this group > ? > Message-ID: <650061222.70602.1477198061621@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > hello:///There/ are seem some case related to what?Dr. James Waddick mentioned. > https://treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/… > "PanAmerican Seed Company Settles Potential Civil Liability for Alleged Violations of theIranian Transactions and Sanctions Regulations: PanAmerican Seed Company (?PanAmSeed?), West Chicago, Illinois, a division of Ball Horticultural Company (?Ball Horticultural?),has agreed to pay $4,320,000 to settle potential civil liability for alleged violations of the IranianTransactions and Sanctions Regulations, 31 C.F.R. part 560 (ITSR).1 Specifically, OFACalleged that from on or about May 5, 2009 to on or about March 2, 2012, PanAm Seed violated? 560.204 of the ITSR by indirectly exporting seeds, primarily of flowers, to two Iraniandistributors on 48 occasions (collectively referred to hereafter as the ?Alleged Violations?)." > > Though the regulated in the article only refer to the trade from U.S. to Iran.http://ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx/… ? Prohibited exportation, reexportation, sale, or supply of goods, technology, or services to Iran.Except as otherwise authorized pursuant to this part, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to May 7, 1995, the exportation, reexportation, sale, or supply, directly or indirectly, from the United States, or by a United States person, wherever located, of any goods, technology, or services to Iran or the Government of Iran is prohibited, including the exportation, reexportation, sale, or supply of any goods, technology, or services to a person in a third country undertaken with knowledge or reason to know that:(a) Such goods, technology, or services are intended specifically for supply, transshipment, or reexportation, directly or indire > ctly, to Iran or the Government of Iran; or(b) Such goods, technology, or services are intended specifically for use in the production of, for commingling with, or for incorporation into goods, technology, or services to be directly or indirectly supplied, transshipped, or reexported exclusively or predominantly to Iran or the Government of Iran." > But it also regulates the trade from Iran to U.S.http://ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR/… ? Prohibited trade-related transactions with Iran; goods, technology, or services.(a) Except as otherwise authorized pursuant to this part, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to May 7, 1995, no United States person, wherever located, may engage in any transaction or dealing in or related to:(1) Goods or services of Iranian origin or owned or controlled by the Government of Iran; or(2) Goods, technology, or services for exportation, reexportation, sale or supply, directly or indirectly, to Iran or the Government of Iran.(b) For purposes of paragraph (a) of this section, the term transaction or dealing includes but is not limited to purchasing, selling, transporting, swapping, brokering, approving, financing, facilitating, or guarantee > ing." > Some nurseries seem offers the bulbs which oringinated from overseas, and may not list all the origin on the catalog for customer to make choices. Beside the inspection requirement, I was also afraid of been listed on the sanction list. (The reexport plants(seeds) needs both the phytosanitary certificates of the country of the origin and the country of the nursery.)http://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/? It also list foreign individuals. But I don't know if there were cases related to plants. > Su-Hong-CiaoTaiwan > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 165, Issue 10 > ************************************ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/