I belong to quite a few plant societies. Of the ones with whom I place orders, most take longer to fill my requests than I would wish. They usually take about as long as the PBS SX. So, the only sin that I see in a small few seed exchange participants is that they want their seeds immediately, like they want their breakfast burritos. Maybe we need to raise the minimum wage for plant society volunteers. I am just glad that most donors and most orderers are careful, generous, and patient. Dell