Greetings, Jim's evidence for inherent morphological diversity is pretty compelling. In the image I linked before (large version here: http://ispotnature.org/sites/default/…) some of the leaves are not frilled at all. Still, I wonder about the general effects of cultivation. In my own experience with a frilly, glaucous California native, Chlorogalum pomeridianum (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w82lQpJ5qcE/TOAmivFMpkI/…), it is very hard to get plants to grow the same, tight frills and twists - and prostrate habit - one finds commonly in exposed spots (in all kinds of exposures) when these same plants or their seeds are grown in pots. -|<ipp > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:37:55 -0500 > From: jshields46074@gmail.com > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus crispus > > I have raised Haemanthus crispus from seed produced in my own greenhouse. > From two ruffled parents I got a few ruffled seedlings and a few flat-leaf > forms. Mine all grow in a greenhouse under condition like Steven > described. > > Jim > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Stephen Putman <putman@pobox.upenn.edu> > wrote: > > > Kipp, > > > > Geographic attribute of your assumption is correct. But..I am growing in > > a greenhouse with heater. So it gets full sun (though less than in a > > desert), and the temperature varies from 48 to 80 F. I do regularly flower > > a few cactus plants I've had since the early 1970's. > > > > Question is, how much light is "enough". > > > > Still waiting for the snow. > > > > Steve Putman, in coastal Delaware near the Delaware Bay > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kipp McMichael" <kimcmich@hotmail.com> > > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:38:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus crispus > > > > Stephen, > > I will assume, given your anticipation of snow, that you're growing > > under lights. Attractive foliar forms - such as twists, ruffles and > > glaucous-ity, are usually associated with strong lighting. I don't think > > you're H. crispus is flat, it is more likely that it is simply not > > experiencing the light intensity (and perhaps temps or humidity) that > > would, in its natural habitat, elicit crisped leaves. > > -|<ipp > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:50:44 -0500 > > > From: putman@pobox.upenn.edu > > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > Subject: [pbs] Haemanthus crispus > > > > > > Keeping amused while awaiting the arrival of the snow. > > > > > > I am growing a Hamantheus crispus. It has one nice leaf (current > > growth) about 7" long. But..this leaf, while attractively spotted, has no > > undulating edges. Is the undulation something that develops with the > > maturation of the bulb? Or, do I just have a "flat" one? > > > > > > Steve Putman > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > -- > James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com > P.O. Box 92 > Westfield, IN 46074 > U.S.A. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/