I don't like being signed up without permission for a google group I'm not interested in, namely Neil de Jager's "bulbophile" news group. It's a group for African bulbs which are at best of marginal interest. Not a financial spam, nor a scam, but highly objectionable nonetheless. If Neil is reading, please take my name off the list. I see no link for doing so in the email. (They're not actually google's groups; they're usenet news groups and they were around decades before google lurched into existence.) -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Z. 7-8, cool Mediterranean climate