Hi, We've had another couple of days of the list not working, from 21:00 2015-09-08 (GMT+1) to 05:00 2015-09-11. Our host ibiblio has been informed. If your posting from this period has not appeared, probably best to re-post. Looked at over the many years PBS has used ibiblio, it has been a reliable partner, but the last couple of weeks have been a shambles. I'm considering alternatives. If you know of a reliable mail list host, send me a private email. Any postings about the list would be best sent to me privately. The last bout of messages about lost emails caused a few people to leave the list. Something bulb related. Out of my office window (north west England), dahlias, begonias, and... a lack of amaryllis, they're late, and it looks like I did something to displease them. There are buds on the nerine and crinum. -- David Pilling http://www.davidpilling.com/