Roger, a simpler solution would be to change the name to Pacific PLANT Society and thus this trend will continue forever without questioning. It is nothing against Travis, as the main bulk of the problem has dragged on for years: that anyone can add whatever he pleases and the uploaded info cannot be removed, this is the nature of the wiki. Alstroemeria, Chlorophytum, Kniphofia, Agapanthus, Pasithea, Sisyrinchium or the rhizomatous Irises are common herbaceous perennials, besides having a dormancy (roses also endure a dormancy!). Asclepias tuberosa a bulb????