new member . introduction

Karl Church 64kkmjr@gmail.com
Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:58:00 PST
Well said Tim,
from another untitled white male.

Karl
On Feb 10, 2015 9:37 PM, "Tim Eck" <teck11@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> There is no purpose to most CITES restrictions.  They are a bureaucracy set
> in place that has much momentum and little insight.  In my opinion, they do
> more harm than good and are likely to cause more extinctions than they
> prevent.  In my work with the American chestnut, the import restrictions
> prevent us from importing all material from blight resistant species
> because
> it might harbor the chestnut blight.  That is what we are trying to correct
> and they are over a hundred years too late for that!
> A similar irony is the mindless bureaucracy of the US congress.  They
> believed they could get more votes if they were "HARD ON CRIME" so they put
> the pot smokers in jail and ruined their lives and careers.  So are we
> going
> to give those poor people their lives back now that we are legalizing pot?
> If entitled white males like me feel helpless when confronted by
> bureaucratic indifference, I can't imagine how the underprivileged must
> feel.
> Sorry, I got carried away there.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lee Poulsen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:50 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] new member . introduction
>
> On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Mario Klesczewski <mario_kle@yahoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > sending seeds of interesting (non protected) species too
>
> I have a question regarding Mario's comment here. I would like to know the
> purpose for not allowing the sending or trading of seeds of protected
> (CITES, I presume) species, especially those that are produced by plants
> grown in personal gardens or collections? I can sort of, kind of,
> understand
> possible reasons for disallowing the collecting or distribution of seeds
> collected from wild, protected species (although I would point to the
> example of South Africa's Kirstenbosch Botanical Garden of growing and
> providing seedlings of Clivia mirabilis to anyone who ordered them
> everywhere in the world shortly after this new and rare species was
> discovered as a brilliant way to immediately diminish the problem of
> poachers decimating the wild-growing populations of rare plants). But seeds
> collected from your own personal non-wild plants?! Who came up with that
> idea? And why, oh, why?
>
> --Lee Poulsen
> Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150
> ft/350 m
>
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