Jim wrote: > I am looking for dry summer lilies to use in my oak woodland landscaping Try Telos Rare Bulbs this summer (they are out of stock at the moment, and besides this isn't bulb shipping season). They may also be able to give you advice on which bulbs might survive in your conditions. The other thing to do is check the Sources list on the wiki. Just go to the Wiki contents page and look for the link to Sources. There used to be some commercial sources for western North America lily seeds, but I'm not aware of any at the moment. I garden in San Jose in an oak woodland, similar to your climate but the summers are not as brutal. Even here I doubt that I could get any native lilies to survive without some supplemental irrigation in summer... Good luck! Mike San Jose, CA (zone 9, min temp 20F)