I am totally confused as even in this discussion people have been including previous messages. I am sure there must be others that do not follow completely what we are discussing here and possibly just what is being referred to in 'the list'. It is easy enough to remove all previous emails as I shall do with this email but how does one pick up on a thread except possibly searching using the subject, provided no one changes this. Are there instructions on how to use 'the list' are instructions on a web site for ibiblio or pacificbulbsociety? Thank you for any clarification that can be given. Regards Don Journet