Alberto, Looks like you are having trouble with your "v". When I called tech support for the same problem, they told me to turn the keyboard over and smack it on my desk real hard. It worked. Tim -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Alberto Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:21 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Rubber mulch Old tyres hae been used in Germany for years, shredded, as a tar additie for paing roads and it seemed a smart solution but coming to think of it the continuing wear and tear by the traffic would also release particles into the atmosphere.