Hi, In message <1379333155.16851.YahooMailNeo@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, ds429 <ds429@frontier.com> writes >39. Lilium formosanum var formosanum (syn L.f. var pricei), ex >wild-collected seed from Taiwan, 3 - 3.5 ft tall var. formosanum and var. pricei are not synonyms, more antonyms - they're the two possibilities out of two, until someone invents other variants. Anyway sounds good, at 3ft. does not sound like var pricei - discussion about this species a couple of days back. It reminds me what I noticed about my really nice specimens (second photo, top of this page): http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… was that the pollen was brown and ones from other sources had yellow pollen. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/