Many years ago when I was trail clearing in New York state, I chanced upon a click beetle. It was the first one I had ever seen, and I was quite bemused by it. Some time later, a grub got caught in a spider's web in my ground floor apartment. It was clicking ferociously, trying to free itself. I assumed it was a click beetle larva. David E. ________________________________ From: "puppincuff@cox.net" puppincuff@cox.net They're beetle larvae,possibly click beetle (Elateridae)