I'm happy for you. I have been trying to germinate seed for several years now with nary a one. I thought that perhaps my winters were too warm so the last batch spent a few months in the refrigerator at 40 degrees F. Still nothing. Any Pointers? Richard Wagner Vista CA -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Sayce Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:24 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] fawn lily Erythronium revolutum, pink fawn lily, is widely distributed in western north america. I have two different groups from wild collected seeds in my yard, and the differences in bloom time are striking. The lowland-source plants, 200 ft elevation, are in flower now. The mountain-source plants, 2800 ft elevation, have just appeared above ground, and will probably flower in 3-4 weeks. The accidental plus is the extension of flowering period for this species in my garden from these two very different collections. Also in flower now is E. tuolumnensem, bright yellow; about to open is E. helenae, which has gone from upright to hooked bud over several weeks. Several others have buds among the foliage, and are a few weeks from full flowering, including E. oreganum. Dave Brastow gave me a seedling of this species several years ago, and I'm very pleased that I have not managed to kill it off. I am hoping for seeds this year from several clumps, and have already got wire mesh protection in place to keep the deer from eating the developing seed heads. The surprise this spring was finding a flowering Scoliopus hallii clump. I had planted it years ago, it was eaten the next year, I assumed it was dead, but no, years later, it's growing well, producing offsets and flowering. Plants are amazingly tough. Kathleen Kathleen Sayce PNW Coast, WHZ 8, dryish cool summers & mild wet winters