To Ina, Pumice can be washed outside in a food strainer/collander and a lot of the dust and fine pieces are washed away. I do it in my garden because the pumice won't harm anything. Sometimes the sacks I get are really dusty and you should not inhale little particles of rock! Please use a face mask at the very least. I use at least 30 sacks of coarse pumice,sometimes more. That is a lot of dust to inhale! Good luck-Russ H. in Peoria AZ,Current 9:30pm temp is around 98F,20% humidity,variable winds,frequent dust storms,very high fire danger. In a message dated 7/2/2013 12:26:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org writes: Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Today's Topics: 1. Erythroniums sources (Nhu Nguyen) 2. Re: Especie dos (Hannon) 3. Re: re Grow Bulbs (Kirstenbosch Gardening Series)by Graham Duncan (Youngs Aberdeen) 4. Erythroniums sources (Gene Mirro) 5. re pumice (Ina Crossley) 6. Re: re pumice (steven hart) 7. Re: Erythroniums sources (Peter Taggart) 8. re pumice (AW) 9. Re: re pumice (Ina Crossley) 10. Re: re pumice (Ina Crossley) 11. Re: re pumice (Hannon) 12. Re: re pumice (Ina Crossley) 13. Re: re pumice (Shmuel Silinsky) 14. Re: re pumice (Ina Crossley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:53:59 -0700 From: Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com> Subject: [pbs] Erythroniums sources To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>, sangil@xtra.co.nz Message-ID: <CAG=tLbip4S2hjoqSrJnKRzNHX7iEhQcrPszrRxFiPygv5RVzPA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone, If you could help Carol, please email her directly at sangil@xtra.co.nz Nhu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: carol signal <sangil@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:06 AM Subject: PBS website contact:///erythroniums/ To: xerantheum@gmail.com I have been trying for some time to acquire some erythronium bulbs and was wondering if you would possible know of someone who may have these. I realize that it is not the right time to get these, but I am willing to wait for some. Hoping you can help me with this. Thank you. Carol Signal opotiki ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:51:05 -0700 From: Hannon <othonna@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Especie dos To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <CAFsz2W_zxxXzRyMbFb8xYyu+5yU0CzTfjHOr_RT96NqQpo-PVQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looks like possibly the same Echeandia (?) species. Very interesting flowers and fruits. Your friend should make multiple vouchers complete with flowers and rootstock to deposit at a local herbarium and at UNAM. Probably someone working in an herbarium will know the name of this plant. If a name is arrived at please let us know! Dylan On 1 July 2013 04:14, David Pilling <pbs@pilling.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > The second posting from Alexis asking for help with identification [1]: > > http://tinyurl.com/k7eqqro/ > > Este ejemplar se encuentra en la misma zona que mi anterior especie! La > ?nica diferencia es que esta que muestro estaba en un Bosque de Pino y > el clima era mas frio. Atarjea, Guanajuato, Mexico. > > This specimen is in the same area as my previous species! the > only difference is that this that show was in a pine forest and > weather was colder. Atarjea, Guanajuato, Mexico. > > [1] > > https://skydrive.live.com//… > Bsrc=Photomail&Bpub=SDX.Photos&authkey=!AIbHqiC4E7e6jAY<https://skydrive.live.com//… SDX.Photos&authkey=!AIbHqiC4E7e6jAY> > > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > -- * "In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty."Proverbs 14:23 * ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:25:38 +0100 From: Youngs Aberdeen <youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re Grow Bulbs (Kirstenbosch Gardening Series)by Graham Duncan To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <51D1D7B2.5030203@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Good to hear Rachel has it at such a fine price - but I don't think she'll be able to beat the price of ?16 delivered to me in Aberdeen , North East Scotland. The AGS offer is very good for the UK. Maggi Y. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:29:49 -0700 From: "Gene Mirro" <mirrog@yahoo.com> Subject: [pbs] Erythroniums sources To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <BC5A906B7C5E41EF83B1C22D18D2EA1E@gmirro2PC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" She?s in NZ? How would you get the bulbs past the Plant Police? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:33:07 +1200 From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> Subject: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <51D249F3.9000209@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am using pumice in my mixes, but only recently. I bought the 7mm one which seems to have a lot of dust and small stuff in it. Does it still do it's job of drainage with all the small stuff filling any gaps. Ina -- Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:18:29 +1000 From: steven hart <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <CACm0T0eggeOScGjeVgcRNdaiRqPbHgrmS-s-bVRGnDYZJvjpXQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes it will Ina, but the fines will retain more moisture On 2 July 2013 13:33, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote: > I am using pumice in my mixes, but only recently. I bought the 7mm one > which seems to have a lot of dust and small stuff in it. Does it still > do it's job of drainage with all the small stuff filling any gaps. > > Ina > > -- > Ina Crossley > Auckland New Zealand zone 10a > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > -- Steven : ) Esk Queensland Australia Summer Zone 5 Winter Zone 10 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 05:42:08 +0100 From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Erythroniums sources To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <CAELwaKj3f7cEHR0-+WNT58Mjnxjw5yGkjFr5QRykqthW7ZZ2fg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I believe that there are plenty of Erythroniums already in New Zealand, and they grow easily from seed in any case. Peter (UK) On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Gene Mirro <mirrog@yahoo.com> wrote: > She?s in NZ? How would you get the bulbs past the Plant Police? > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:58:18 -0700 From: "AW" <awilson@avonia.com> Subject: [pbs] re pumice To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <AA75A3FA9E8E4549B29CDC0CCE7EA850@Desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Ina! Small pumice is fine for bulbs (no pun inteded). But, be careful when handling the stuff. The dust is not good for you. Andrew ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:19:37 +1200 From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <51D262E9.5020207@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So keep it moist would be best, as I also do with potting mix, always. Thanks Andrew. On 2/07/2013 4:58 p.m., AW wrote: > Hi, Ina! > > Small pumice is fine for bulbs (no pun inteded). But, be careful when > handling the stuff. The dust is not good for you. > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > -- Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:30:40 +1200 From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <51D26580.2050600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks Steven. I will do some more investigation in sizes of pumice. They call this washed, I can't see that as when I turned the hose on the top of the bag (having cut a hole in the bottom) there was so much stuff coming out. Back to the drawing board. Ina On 2/07/2013 4:18 p.m., steven hart wrote: > Yes it will Ina, but the fines will retain more moisture > > > On 2 July 2013 13:33, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am using pumice in my mixes, but only recently. I bought the 7mm one >> which seems to have a lot of dust and small stuff in it. Does it still >> do it's job of drainage with all the small stuff filling any gaps. >> >> Ina >> >> -- >> Ina Crossley >> Auckland New Zealand zone 10a >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> > > -- Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:38:48 -0700 From: Hannon <othonna@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <CAFsz2W9AsoM3MJK3VJT1KteHjD_zj+On3V3whVuE_S88hMEmFw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The fines are not harmful and can be very helpful in coating live roots and root hairs. Washing pumice deprives roots of needed insulation and moisture. For most plants there is such a thing as a medium that is too coarse and aerated. Dylan * * ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:47:17 +1200 From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <51D26965.8000607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I've been mixing the pumice with some potting mix. I thought that would offset any gaps. Anyway, I gave up the washing idea as it is far too time consuming. Thanks for that Dylan. Ina On 2/07/2013 5:38 p.m., Hannon wrote: > The fines are not harmful and can be very helpful in coating live roots and > root hairs. Washing pumice deprives roots of needed insulation and > moisture. For most plants there is such a thing as a medium that is too > coarse and aerated. > > Dylan > > * > > > * > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > -- Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 03:12:23 -0400 From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <CACHBJeH2MQu-Opb5MbvYKJ6PKj+Zme1c0Bd=nPEu4+U6vctB4A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use fine as well as small pumice (I think that's what you would call it - here it is called tuff) mixed with sand and a bit of sandy soil(sold in bags here) in my inorganic cactus mix as well as for Atacama bulbs and other that rot easily. (We have cold wet winters, but not freezing.) I also use the fine with sand for germinating seed of drainage loving plants with good success. \ Shmuel Jerusalem Israel Zone 9 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been mixing the pumice with some potting mix. I thought that would > offset any gaps. Anyway, I gave up the washing idea as it is far too > time consuming. > > Thanks for that Dylan. > > Ina > On 2/07/2013 5:38 p.m., Hannon wrote: > > The fines are not harmful and can be very helpful in coating live roots > and > > root hairs. Washing pumice deprives roots of needed insulation and > > moisture. For most plants there is such a thing as a medium that is too > > coarse and aerated. > > > > Dylan > > > > * > > > > > > * > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > -- > Ina Crossley > Auckland New Zealand zone 10a > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:27:13 +1200 From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <51D280D1.7040701@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed As these are bulbs I am growing, they need more food than cacti do. And it is not rot, but disease which is the problem. Like you we have cold, wet winters, but not freezing, Shmuel. So I look for drainage and with feeding. Tomorrow I will go past the place which sells all these things and investigate further. According to their website the 7 mm pumice is supposed to be from 4-7mm. I don't see that fitting in with the sand and small stuff there is in this pumice. Ina On 2/07/2013 7:12 p.m., Shmuel Silinsky wrote: > I use fine as well as small pumice (I think that's what you would call it - > here it is called tuff) mixed with sand and a bit of sandy soil(sold in > bags here) in my inorganic cactus mix as well as for Atacama bulbs and > other that rot easily. (We have cold wet winters, but not freezing.) I also > use the fine with sand for germinating seed of drainage loving plants with > good success. > \ > Shmuel > Jerusalem Israel > Zone 9 -- Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php End of pbs Digest, Vol 126, Issue 2 ***********************************