Hi all, An interesting thing to compare between Crinum bulbispermum growing free in the garden here and C. variabile growing the same way: Seed production. Crinum bulbispermum is in full bloom here (in the ground) right now, and has been blooming for 2 or 3 weeks already, at least this year. It is producing huge seed crops, and has done so in past years. (Should I send some to the BX again?) Crinum variabile blooms in August or September, continuing on into October. It produces few if any seeds unless I hand pollinate the flowers myself. (Anyone want any of these seeds again this year?) I think the pollinators for bulbispermum are the various native Hawk Moths or Sphinx Moths (same family), which fly and visit flowers at dusk here. I suspect that by late August, there are no crepuscular-flying moths left here in the adult form -- they are probably either still larvae eating leaves or already pupated below ground, waiting for next spring. Incidentally, the hybrid [variabile x bulbispermum] blooms in between bulbispermum and variabile, and also sets spontaneous seeds without my personal intervention. However, I get somewhat more seeds from the hybrids if I also hand-pollinate them as well. Curious, isn't it? Jim Shields Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W