I'm glad Joe mentioned this, as I am also puzzled by the mysterious John Innes and his secret numbered accounts. Then there is "bulb fiber" which is also new to me. Was it Mark Twain or Will Rogers who described the England and USA as "two countries separated by a common language"? Jim Shields At 11:01 AM 8/18/2013 -0700, you wrote: >I so frequently hear of John Innes #3 and have no idea what this is. It >is obviously some government controlled secret. No one in the nurseries >in S. California know what it is. Hmmmm!! Joe ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W