And my first response comes from Michigan! Did NOT see that coming!!! :-) That O. polyacantha is BEAUTIFUL! Just what I was dreaming of. I'll have to remember to bug you six months from now for pollen. As for the chromosomes, since I'm under the assumption mine is a hybrid already, I couldn't really hazard a guess as to its chromosome count. But your advice is still quite valid, nonetheless. Thanks, Dennis in Cincinnati