Rodger, Perhaps you could create a bog garden? It would take a while but you could start from seed (I don't know if these are on the market as bulbs) some of the lilies from SW Oregon and NW California that like their a bit wet like Vollmer's Lily ( L. pardalinum ssp. vollmeri). Kalmia microphylla would be an excellent bog plant to shelter and give a helping hand to growing bulbs. Then maybe plant some skunk cabbage, fool's huckleberry, and salmon and thimble berry to taste? Or finanlly just be done with it, dig the area out and put in a pond with a pump and make a water feature! Best, Stephen Munro Seattle ________________________________ From: Rodger Whitlock <totototo@telus.net> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [pbs] Camassia On 10 May 2012, at 9:33, Jane McGary wrote: > As far as I know, the only C. leichtlinii form in commerce is the > semi-double greenish-white form, called, I think, 'Alboplena'. That alboplena to me looks much like a double of the type form. I'd call a pale dirty yellow. I have a very dark form here that was given to me by my one-time gardener that appears to be a selection of C. leichtlinii ssp. suksdorfii. But I don't remember its name other than a dim recollection that it was named after a female Royal somewhere, likely one of the Dutch royals. It's a good form. It sets seed (though not copiously) so my stand of it, though isolated from my jungle of locally collected pale forms and their progeny, is probably no longer genetically pure. Any moment I expect ethnic cleansing to break out between the purebreds and the mongrels. Jane's further comments about growing camas in a sump came as welcome news. The storm sewer construction has led to the creation of a large bed that DOES NOT DRAIN, thanks to idiot constuction dudes running a big excavator over wet clay, and I've been at my wits' end trying to think what I can plant that that will tolerate the conditions thus created. I see a "moving of the camas" in my near future. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Z. 7-8, cool Mediterranean climate