I was reading Alberto's article 'Starting a Bulb Collection II' yesterday and noticed the statement that 'permanent' markers are not so. Friends of mine in this area have been using the PC printed labels that they attach to heavy vinyl and have seen these last at least five years. These labels do have the advantage that generating them on a PC ensures that labels and inventory will be maintained consistently (all plant-related data). So, the question I have is: While nothing lasts forever, how long do these 'permanent' markers actually last? I must be clear - I am not talking about imprinted vinyl tabs, but the imprinted tapes that one attaches to a label stick. I could not see any changes in what my friends (who have a large bromeliad coleection) showed me after 5 years. From this I suspect the thick vinyl will wear away first. Any comments? Andrew San Diego