Hi Gastil, I have got the same seeds from the PBS BX 279. I kept them in wet paper towels until they germinated. It was about one month term. There was no cold stratification needed, but I removed the black cover from the seeds that did not want to germinate. I always kept the at room temperature. (20-23C) I checked them regularly after I planted them in well draining compost, 1 cm under the soil. Last week I found that the seeds are disappeared, only the seed coat left, and some little white stub, with rotting ends. I supposed that they died. (somewhere I find that they hate to be in pots, and mines are in a 13cm plastic pot) I lifted the soil from the pot and I saw there are many healthy roots and some small bulbs. The basal plate was at 6-8 cm under ground. Then I removed the top layer of the soil, and one little leave started to come up. It was still white and just under the soil surface. I did not disturb them since then. I think that they love water. I keep them quite wet all the time. I suppose all the 4 different types can be at the same stage now. (I ordered 1. Lycoris chinensis Yellow 2. L. longituba longituba and L. long. flavum. 3. L. chinensis x L. longituba. and 4. L. sprengeri) Barna Sipos UK and Hungary On 24 Mar 2012, at 21:18, Gastil wrote: > Hi Lycoris growers, > > I have not grown Lycoris before and have only these beginning > experiences with bulb seed. And clearly I have not learned patience. A happy surprise today: when I tipped out the soil from a pot of germinated Lycoris sprengeri, which appeared dead and I had given up on, out fell four healthy-looking baby bulbs with roots. They had merely gone dormant. > > I photographed them along with one of the now-empty shell of one of the seeds. > http://flickr.com/photos/gastils_garden/… > > Then I quickly re-potted them with fresh seed-starter mix. Should I keep them dry or damp during their dormancy? Warm or cool? I did not see what depth they were growing in the pot. Should they be neck-to-surface? There is a second pot which also had 4 seeds sprout, which also looks dormant now. (Well, it looks like nothing but soil.) Should I re-pot those or leave them as-is? These seedlings have never had a leaf. The seeds sent out shoots which stuck themselves into the potting soil and turned green on their long necks to the seed. The seeds are from PBS BX 297 #4 from Jim Waddick. Received 8 Dec and soaked until 13 Dec 2011. Germinated 21 Dec. March 2012 nothing visible above soil. > > - Gastil > The above are indoors, but outdoors a riot of bloom: Freesias, Scilla, Ipheion, Watsonia, Dierama, Sparaxis, Muscari, Babiana, Moraea, a couple late daffodils and various dicots including an explosion of purple Tropaeolum. California central coast, Zone 9b. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/