Kipp, In Tucson, you must visit Plants for the Southwest on the corner of Stone and Blacklidge. The garden shop at Tohono Chul (just south of Oracle and Ina) also has lots of neat stuff. Shawn Pollard Yuma, AZ --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> Subject: [pbs] LA, Vista, San Diego & Tucson To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org, fat-plants@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 4:41 AM Greetings, In between my old job and my new one I've decided to indulge myself in a road-trip to Southern Cal and Tucson. I'll be going next week. I know about Arid Lands, Grigsby Cactus and Petra Crist/Rare Succulents. I have a large african bulb collection (primarily winter growers) and I collect strange succulents and caudiciforms of all types. I'd love some additional recommendations of where to go - especially any specialists growers who would be available. I have an open schedule and an open route - so tell me anything/anywhere good. Thanks for tips,-|<ipp