>I know that Gravetye Giant may take a couple of years for its extra >large size and flowers to materialise. >But saying that, they are not that much bigger than any other form, >just enough to warrant cultivation. Dear MArk, Thanks for your info. Apparently L. aestivum is pretty variable and 'Gravetye Giant' may be the common form in commerce - at least in the US. I'll check these more close with caliper in hand when they get into full bloom. > Re: yellow tips.This is surely a L.vernum form? This is >called L.vernum var. 'Wagneri' variously. I have from Germany a form >which is very good and stable called 'Eva Habermeyer'. John Grimshaw has explained this very well. Normally L. vernum has a single flower per stalk, but the name 'vagneri' has been applied to any plants with 2 flowers per stalk and with green spots. This is apparently fairly unstable and random and probably has no value as a cv or ssp name. However there have been some cvs named and introduced, but are in very modest cultivation. >The semi-double L. vernum 'Gretrude Weisser' is around.It is a north >american selection. >I am still waiting for a true and beautiful double form of either of >these species. Yes, I recently note a pic posted to the wiki of 'Gertrude Wister a multipetalled form - kind of messy to me. Until a few years ago, I was confused about the differences and variation in the two spring Leucojum species. I suggest a look at the wiki for some details. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Apparently there are not true doubles of either of these species. again thanks for your info. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +