Hello Dell, In the UK twin scaling is a standard procedure for bulk and commercial propagation of many bulbs, in particular snowdrop and daffodill cultivars. There are related tecniques such as scoring a cross on the basal plate of a bulb and planting it upside down especially used for hyacinths or so I believe, and horizontally halfing the bulbs of the Fritillaria persica. I have never done more than an occasional experiment with these tecniques myself -out of curiosity, but I believe problems can arise with twin scaling if the fragments of the bulb are too small resulting in insufficient material to produce healthy bulbils. The only legal problems I can think of are plant breeders rights where propagation of a particular cultivar is prohibited for a period of time. Peter On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:03 PM, <ds429@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > This is a wonderful idea! I know that we have members who have interesting > cultivars of galanthus and several members who know how to do twin-scaling. > Does anyone know about obstacles (legal or otherwise) to an effort to > propagate and distribute galanthus through twin-scaling? Are they especially > difficult to twin-scale? Please, other members, add your thoughts to this > discussion. > > > > Best wishes, > > Dell > > > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Taggart" <petersirises@gmail.com> > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:16:06 PM > Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus > > all it needs is a couple of bulbs of a form or cultivar to be twin scaled > and most snowdrops could be widely distributed in the US in a few years. > Surely there are a few legal bulbs of many varieties already in the US? If > there owners were to give one over to twin scaling ---problem solved. > Peter > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, KEVIN INKAWHICH <kevin_ink@mac.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for your help and advice. I can see that this will be > > quite a challenge! But isn't every worthwhile effort a challenge? > > I wrote to Mr Lyman yesterday. > > Keep all your good advice coming, John were would I get the necessary > > papers to place an order with the UK from you? > > Sounds like it's worth a shot. > > Kevin > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 7:13 AM, John Grimshaw <j.grimshaw@virgin.net> > wrote: > > > > > As Jane McGary says, the biggest problem in getting Galanthus into > North > > > America is the paperwork and bureaucracy required. We (Colesbourne > > Gardens > > > http://www.snowdrop.org.uk/) are one of the few UK suppliers to export > snowdrops > > (as > > > dormant bulbs, the only time we move them) to North America and it is a > > > matter for major stress. The paperwork for each consignment is massive, > > but > > > the worst part is not knowing whether the parcels will be inspected by > > > British customs on the way out, and the CITES licences stamped > properly: > > we > > > have had great problems because this has not happened in the past. > > > > > > It's not surprising that some people choose the easy route and smuggle > > them > > > in, but CITES has teeth in international law (think ivory, rhino horn, > > > orchids) and there are potential phytosanitary consequences of > unchecked > > > material, so we do it the hard way. > > > > > > John Grimshaw > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit John Grimshaw's Garden Diary > > > http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Dr. John M. Grimshaw > > > Sycamore Cottage > > > Colesbourne > > > Cheltenham > > > Gloucestershire > > > GL53 9NP > > > > > > Tel. 01242 870567 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jane McGary" <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > > > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus > > > > > > > > >> Kevin wrote > > >>> Dear Fellow Bulb Fanatics- > > >>> > > >>> GALANTHUS > > >>> > > >>> Subject line says it. > > >>> Seems they are difficult to locate in the states. Any suggestions > > >>> or better to offer? Would like to get some soon. > > >>> > > > w > > >> are convinced that this is a myth that began when we didn't have the > > >> ability to store the dormant bulbs properly and ship them quickly. > > >> When I was selling bulbs I always sent my Galanthus bulbs dormant in > > >> late summer, packed in barely moist vermiculite, and I've received > > >> healthy bulbs from the UK and Latvia at this stage also. It also > > >> means much less expense! We may hear from Galanthus expert John > > >> Grimshaw soon on this topic. > > >> > > >> Though I'm no galanthophile (snowdrop fanatic), we do have a few here > > >> in the Pacific Northwest and it's likely that we'll slowly build up a > > >> community stock of select varieties that will eventually be > > >> disseminated. One problem is that the genus Galanthus is CITES > > >> controlled (because of harvesting in the wild in Turkey) and > > >> therefore very expensive to import: each listed genus in an order > > >> requries a separate, costly CITES permit, even if the material being > > >> shipped is a named variety that's been propagated in gardens for a > > >> century. > > >> > > >> Jane McGary > > >> Portland, Oregon, USA > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> pbs mailing list > > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/