Peter, This is a wonderful idea! I know that we have members who have interesting cultivars of galanthus and several members who know how to do twin-scaling. Does anyone know about obstacles (legal or otherwise) to an effort to propagate and distribute galanthus through twin-scaling? Are they especially difficult to twin-scale? Please, other members, add your thoughts to this discussion. Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Taggart" <petersirises@gmail.com> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:16:06 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus all it needs is a couple of bulbs of a form or cultivar to be twin scaled and most snowdrops could be widely distributed in the US in a few years. Surely there are a few legal bulbs of many varieties already in the US? If there owners were to give one over to twin scaling ---problem solved. Peter On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, KEVIN INKAWHICH <kevin_ink@mac.com> wrote: > Thanks everyone for your help and advice. I can see that this will be > quite a challenge! But isn't every worthwhile effort a challenge? > I wrote to Mr Lyman yesterday. > Keep all your good advice coming, John were would I get the necessary > papers to place an order with the UK from you? > Sounds like it's worth a shot. > Kevin > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 7:13 AM, John Grimshaw <j.grimshaw@virgin.net> wrote: > > > As Jane McGary says, the biggest problem in getting Galanthus into North > > America is the paperwork and bureaucracy required. We (Colesbourne > Gardens > > http://www.snowdrop.org.uk/) are one of the few UK suppliers to export snowdrops > (as > > dormant bulbs, the only time we move them) to North America and it is a > > matter for major stress. The paperwork for each consignment is massive, > but > > the worst part is not knowing whether the parcels will be inspected by > > British customs on the way out, and the CITES licences stamped properly: > we > > have had great problems because this has not happened in the past. > > > > It's not surprising that some people choose the easy route and smuggle > them > > in, but CITES has teeth in international law (think ivory, rhino horn, > > orchids) and there are potential phytosanitary consequences of unchecked > > material, so we do it the hard way. > > > > John Grimshaw > > > > > > > > Visit John Grimshaw's Garden Diary > > http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/ > > > > Dr. John M. Grimshaw > > Sycamore Cottage > > Colesbourne > > Cheltenham > > Gloucestershire > > GL53 9NP > > > > Tel. 01242 870567 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jane McGary" <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus > > > > > >> Kevin wrote > >>> Dear Fellow Bulb Fanatics- > >>> > >>> GALANTHUS > >>> > >>> Subject line says it. > >>> Seems they are difficult to locate in the states. Any suggestions > >>> or better to offer? Would like to get some soon. > >>> > > w > >> are convinced that this is a myth that began when we didn't have the > >> ability to store the dormant bulbs properly and ship them quickly. > >> When I was selling bulbs I always sent my Galanthus bulbs dormant in > >> late summer, packed in barely moist vermiculite, and I've received > >> healthy bulbs from the UK and Latvia at this stage also. It also > >> means much less expense! We may hear from Galanthus expert John > >> Grimshaw soon on this topic. > >> > >> Though I'm no galanthophile (snowdrop fanatic), we do have a few here > >> in the Pacific Northwest and it's likely that we'll slowly build up a > >> community stock of select varieties that will eventually be > >> disseminated. One problem is that the genus Galanthus is CITES > >> controlled (because of harvesting in the wild in Turkey) and > >> therefore very expensive to import: each listed genus in an order > >> requries a separate, costly CITES permit, even if the material being > >> shipped is a named variety that's been propagated in gardens for a > >> century. > >> > >> Jane McGary > >> Portland, Oregon, USA > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/