One certainly doesn't have to be on Facebook, but as Dennis pointed out, if anyone on Facebook lists a club or society as one of their activities, if no Facebook page already exists for that club then one is automatically created. I think any officer of the society can take over ownership of that page, once it is created. The PBS webmaster might want to look into that. Some groups are intentionally created. There is a small but very active group for Haemanthus on Facebook, for instance. It has caught on while an older Yahoo Group for Haemanthus is barely alive. I personally prefer e-mail lists like PBS, but we tend to go where things are working best. The Haemanthus group on Facebook works particularly well, it seems. So I am finding room for both, just as I finally joined the SRGC Forum. Jim Shields At 08:25 AM 7/30/2011 +0200, you wrote: >I don't want to be on Facebook >I prefer this or a normal forum >I don't like there pushy system >For me it stays empty > >Roland ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W