Jim, No retiring! I haven't heard any of these stories, keep 'em comin'! :) I grow my calyptratum in an orchid mix with a tad bit of sphagnum, they are really prospering! Josh ________________________________ This is another one of those plants which, believe it or not, Park Seeds sold decades ago (back when they were selling Worsleya seed). I grew one from their seed but lost it before it flowered. A friend had one which he had grown from seed and it did flower. I remember the scent as odd and wax-like (I realize that that's not too helpful as a description; sorry). I've probably told that story before on this list; maybe it's time for me to retire since I'm into re-runs now. Jim McKenney