Paul, You speak to one of the issues I have puzzled over, what happens to my collection when I am gone. I frankly, from past experience, do not trust any of the smaller botanical gardens to conserve a collection. My initial thought was an educational institution, but the cuts to these do not even bode well for their ability to conserve a collection. If you have any thoughts as to where those of us interested can place collections for posterity I for one (and my current collection is much smaller than many here) would like to hear of them. Randy -- * * A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. - Thomas Paine --- * *