from my earlier posting 'If held at warmer or colder temperatures the seeds may never germinate but if they do the true leaf may never sprout' On Dec 26, 2011, at 6:13 AM, Robin Carrier wrote: > please tell me what is the point. go back a step - or two. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin Carrier" <robin@no1bird.com> > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds > > >> i know this must be dumb, but i stiil don't see the point of heating some >> thing that is intentionally in a cooled room. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Haard" <richrd@nas.com> >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 7:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds >> >> >>> Robin - >>> >>> Yes, alternative would be running a second refrigerator. In it, I'm >>> incubating about 15 lily collections, some are small batches from PBS >>> seed >>> exchange, others larger for production. My first attempt at this scheme! >>> Fall planting has not been reliable and timing difficult. This seems >>> like >>> best solution for small lots. The box is glued together 2 inch styrofoam >>> and has light source if needed. Can be scaled down to fit a normal >>> refrigerator. >>> >>> The walk in cooler is 12 x 12 x 8'. We need the lower temp range for cold >>> stratification and actually by next month will be 36 degrees. . Heated >>> box >>> is size of large camp cooler and heat source regulated by thermostat is >>> minimal. Energy 'cost' is considerably less than setting up another >>> refrigerator to maintain 48 F. Also I have option to include additional >>> temp ranges with light sources if needed in same cooler. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Robin Carrier wrote: >>> >>>> i've missed something. >>>> >>>> am i to understand that mr haard keeps seeds or plants that are heated >>>> to >>>> 48 degrees in a walk in cooler which is cooled to 40 degrees?. >>>> >>>> sorry >>>> >>>> i probably shouldn't sign my name to this. >>>> >>>> robin >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Richard Haard" <richrd@nas.com> >>>> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:13 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds >>>> >>>> >>>>> I've set up an insulated box with heat source and thermostat inside our >>>>> walk in cooler. >>>>> >>>>> Maintains 48 F nicely with 40 degree cooler temp.... >>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Kathleen Sayce wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone on this list have an email address for Darm Crook? I was >>>>>> reading about his 50 F growing chamber using a refrigerator, and would >>>>>> like to talk to him about this. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard T. Haard >>>>> Bellingham, Wa., >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>> >>> Richard T. Haard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Richard T. Haard